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This & That from Here & There - PFDEng1 - 10-25-2012
Dave,
Welcome to the digital world! You will also be saving money, no longer having to purchase film and then paying for processing.
I stopped taking slides back during 2002 after the Kodachrome I had was gone. I was shooting both for a little while and I am glad to go back to only using one camera. The great thing about digital is instantly seeing your photos and not having to wait for film to be processed. Also being able to edit the photos on the computer is nice!
Good luck and you'll probably think like most of us that you should have done this years ago!
Jeff
This & That from Here & There - davebowen - 10-25-2012
I TOO WAS NOT TOO KEEN ABOUT GOING DIGITAL AFTER SHOOTING WITH FILM FOR 30 YEARS OR SO. IT TURNED OUT TO BE A VERY GOOD MOVE I WISH I HAD DONE SOONER.
This & That from Here & There - Mark V. Carr - 10-25-2012
Wow! Hairy's finally switched to modern world! I felt the same pain when I switched but I'd never go back! Darn, I coulda saved you some bucks! I'm replacing my old Nikon D70 and lenses with a new D5100 and new lenses! I woulda give you my old one! Oh well, you missed out by not communicating regularly with an old pal! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-25-2012
[quote name='PFDEng1' timestamp='1351194754' post='501553']
Dave,
Welcome to the digital world! You will also be saving money, no longer having to purchase film and then paying for processing.
I stopped taking slides back during 2002 after the Kodachrome I had was gone. I was shooting both for a little while and I am glad to go back to only using one camera. The great thing about digital is instantly seeing your photos and not having to wait for film to be processed. Also being able to edit the photos on the computer is nice!
Good luck and you'll probably think like most of us that you should have done this years ago!
Jeff
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I appreciate the thought, but I'm still not happy about having to change. Saving money was never the issue. Until recently, I never bought my film. My wife has four sisters who resupplied me with film every Christmas. It's not that I'm resistant to change, it's just that I believe in not fixing something that isn't broken. There isn't one damn thing wrong with my Canon T70 or my Canon Rebel XSN. Film isn't hard to find because there is anything wrong with it, it just isn't popular any more.
Seeing the images instantly isn't a big deal for me either. I'm not that impatient. There have been times when rigs from one trip sat in the camera for months until another trip, and it never bothered me a bit. I've been editing my photos on the computer for years, so there's no improvement there. I've looked at prints of my shots from both film and digital of the same rig and cannot see any advantage. I've done the same with the rigs I have posted, comparing those scanned from film prints to those resized from digital, and they look the same.
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-25-2012
[quote name='unMARKedCARR' timestamp='1351213636' post='501572']
Wow! Hairy's finally switched to modern world! I felt the same pain when I switched but I'd never go back! Darn, I coulda saved you some bucks! I'm replacing my old Nikon D70 and lenses with a new D5100 and new lenses! I woulda give you my old one! Oh well, you missed out by not communicating regularly with an old pal! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Nikon?? You might as well have offered me your old Ford! When I go hunting, I shoot a Canon! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fireman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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This & That from Here & There - johndanger - 10-25-2012
Dave, the new pics look great.
This & That from Here & There - fyrfoto - 10-26-2012
[quote name='GA_Dave' timestamp='1351215608' post='501575']
I appreciate the thought, but I'm still not happy about having to change. Saving money was never the issue. Until recently, I never bought my film. My wife has four sisters who resupplied me with film every Christmas. It's not that I'm resistant to change, it's just that I believe in not fixing something that isn't broken. There isn't one damn thing wrong with my Canon T70 or my Canon Rebel XSN. Film isn't hard to find because there is anything wrong with it, it just isn't popular any more.
Seeing the images instantly isn't a big deal for me either. I'm not that impatient. There have been times when rigs from one trip sat in the camera for months until another trip, and it never bothered me a bit. I've been editing my photos on the computer for years, so there's no improvement there. I've looked at prints of my shots from both film and digital of the same rig and cannot see any advantage. I've done the same with the rigs I have posted, comparing those scanned from film prints to those resized from digital, and they look the same.
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The change to digital, while convenient is also extremely frustrating because of the obsolescence of equipment. On the shelf in my office I have a Nikon/Kodak NC2000, a D1, a D1x, and a D2 that are essentially expensive paperweights with no real value. My old Nikon FM2s, F3s and F4s worked beautifully, and still work beautifully, but in order to stay current and competitive the digital cameras have needed to be upgraded every few years, leaving the old cameras as obsolete. Don't even get me started on medium format! That bag of equipment is wonderful but largely unused except for pleasure. It is making the camera manufacturers gobs of money as the digital world moves on.
The other issue that I have with digital equipment is that it has largely taken the craft of photography down a notch. People can "chimp" and look at the screen to determine correct exposure and composition instead of getting the photo right to begin with. Shoot it in raw mode, tweak it in photoshop and make a crap photograph "exceptional." The ability to get the shot right from the camera is not a big concern for the vast majority of people at this point, which is sad. In a way it is a lot like driving a fire truck. If you had to learn to drive a truck on an old manual ALF or Mack, you paid attention, developed the skill and learned to "drive" the truck. Now anyone can hop into a 500hp monster, release the brake, stick it in drive and pretend to drive their Honda. It may be convenient, but if the technology is used incorrectly it can be downright dangerous.
The person that I view as the finest fire photographer in the world once told me a story about using a 4x5 camera to shoot a fire, and challenged me to try it. I did, it was a tremendous pain in the butt, it was painful, it made you THINK. While I don't ever want to do it again, I am a much better person because of it. It makes you slow down and think, something you do not have to do with the ability to shoot hundreds of photos in one shot on a memory card. Digital has taken much of the skill from photography.
I think I need to hurry up and build that darkroom in my basement, stock up on 120 and 35mm film, and shoot and print some real photos that don't have the Adobe seal of approval.
This & That from Here & There - Guest - 10-26-2012
[quote name='fyrfoto' timestamp='1351267338' post='501619']
The change to digital, while convenient is also extremely frustrating because of the obsolescence of equipment. On the shelf in my office I have a Nikon/Kodak NC2000, a D1, a D1x, and a D2 that are essentially expensive paperweights with no real value. My old Nikon FM2s, F3s and F4s worked beautifully, and still work beautifully, but in order to stay current and competitive the digital cameras have needed to be upgraded every few years, leaving the old cameras as obsolete. Don't even get me started on medium format! That bag of equipment is wonderful but largely unused except for pleasure. It is making the camera manufacturers gobs of money as the digital world moves on.
The other issue that I have with digital equipment is that it has largely taken the craft of photography down a notch. People can "chimp" and look at the screen to determine correct exposure and composition instead of getting the photo right to begin with. Shoot it in raw mode, tweak it in photoshop and make a crap photograph "exceptional." The ability to get the shot right from the camera is not a big concern for the vast majority of people at this point, which is sad. In a way it is a lot like driving a fire truck. If you had to learn to drive a truck on an old manual ALF or Mack, you paid attention, developed the skill and learned to "drive" the truck. Now anyone can hop into a 500hp monster, release the brake, stick it in drive and pretend to drive their Honda. It may be convenient, but if the technology is used incorrectly it can be downright dangerous.
The person that I view as the finest fire photographer in the world once told me a story about using a 4x5 camera to shoot a fire, and challenged me to try it. I did, it was a tremendous pain in the butt, it was painful, it made you THINK. While I don't ever want to do it again, I am a much better person because of it. It makes you slow down and think, something you do not have to do with the ability to shoot hundreds of photos in one shot on a memory card. Digital has taken much of the skill from photography.
I think I need to hurry up and build that darkroom in my basement, stock up on 120 and 35mm film, and shoot and print some real photos that don't have the Adobe seal of approval.
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Thank you for speaking the truth!
The world of rail photography is even worse IMO, nothing but spoiled rich kids running around indulging their ego trips...
This & That from Here & There - YeOldeEnjine - 10-26-2012
AMEN..!! Fyrfoto & My good Doctor...!, AMEN!
I was taught the old saying "F8 and BE THERE"..... some of these new digital young guns wouldn't know F8 on a camera from the button on their keyboard.
It's even funnier when I get to take them in the darkroom and show them how I print color "PHOTOGRAPHS".....
I may have a little Nikon L22 digital camera, but the good stuff gets shot with one of the F-1N's. If I really feel like a little pain I'll break out my Eastman 2d 8" x 10" view camera....
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
The next morning, Jon and I headed to the Wilmington, NC area.
Engine 13, New Hanover County, NC
1998 Sutphen
1250/1000/6F
HS-3352
Former Engine 41, Castle Hayne FD
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Engine 13 Reserve, New Hanover County, NC
1989 Simon-Duplex D-500/Pierce
1250/1000/10F
#E5055
Former Engine 42, Castle Hayne FD
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Squad 13, New Hanover County, NC
2006 GMC 5500/Seagrave
500/300/15F 4x4
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Engine 17, New Hanover County, NC
2007 Pierce Dash 2000
1500/1000/20F
#19089
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Tower 17, New Hanover County, NC
2008 Pierce Arrow XT
1500/300/100'
#21107
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Engine 17 Reserve, New Hanover County, NC
1992 KME Renegade
1500/1000
GSO-1622
Former Engine 32, Seagate FD
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Engine 14, New Hanover County, NC
200 Pierce Arrow XT P.U.C.
1500/1000/30F
#23559
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Brush 14, New Hanover County, NC
1996 Hummer/Fire Attacker
300/200/15F 4x4
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Rescue 16 Reserve, New Hanover County, NC
1999 International 4900/E.V.I.
#RM2376
Former Rescue 61, Ogden FD
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Engine 16 Reserve, New Hanover County, NC
1995 Spartan Gladiator/Saulsbury
1500/1000
#295022
Former Engine 62, Ogden FD
This & That from Here & There - GA_Dave - 10-27-2012
Engine 16, New Hanover County, NC
2007 Pierce Dash 2000
1500/1000/30F
#19372