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Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 06-14-2012

[quote name='BFD1151' timestamp='1339713538' post='488745']

I'm not sure what was kept inside...

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Well, here's your answer. :-)



Inside, they keep one ambulance and two pumpers.



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[indent=1]Truck 11 - 1981 Ford F800/Grumman 750/750 (ex Big Island VFD [Bedford Co, VA], Grumman #16388, received October 2007)[/indent]



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Truck 1 - 1977 Ford/Oren 750/500 (ex Wintergreen, VA [Nelson Co, VA], Oren #15075)


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 06-14-2012




Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - BFD1151 - 06-15-2012

Thanks a bunch for all of the info Taylor! Definately a neat area to visit apparatus wise....assuming you can find someone to let you into the station and move the trucks around.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 06-15-2012

Glad to help, Micah. Getting the posed photos took a lot of phone calls and planning ahead of time...and explaining our wierd hobby over and over at each stop.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - GA_Dave - 06-15-2012

Quote:Also in the building were:

Engine 35 - 1975 Ford C900/Young 1000/1000 (ex Corfu, NY; ex Washington County, VA; Young SN #75-592)



Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Fire28 - 06-15-2012

Thats deffinitly some neat stuff. Ill have to remember the ex MD Rig next time im down that way.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 06-15-2012

Ray, that's the one that was wrecked? Wow, it was pretty twisted up, the guy driving it turned in front of a tractor trailer on I95 about 5 or 6 years ago. The other rig went to auction and was in working order and was last seen at a used car lot up here.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 06-15-2012

It sure was. They found it listed in the Fire Trader (or similiar magazine), picked it up for next to nothing because of the accident damage, and repaired it in-house. When seeing it in person, the accident damage and repairs are a lot easier to see.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 06-15-2012

I looked at my pictures as well as Warren G. We confirm it is old Engine 16 and later became Reserve Engine 70.Side note Engine 16 was using it when the accident occured. I drove that pumper a lot when i was there and I remember how much black smoke that little detroit would blow out when we would take off.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Andrew2340 - 06-15-2012

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I wish we could have gotten pics of this one! This truck also served Newmansville VFD in Greene County, TN in between Corfu and Washington County. Saint Charles, VA is the only time I've ever been legitimately scared while taking pics. We were out of the vehicle no more than 2 minutes to shoot those Saint Charles rigs and get a quick station shot. I had no idea about the other trucks in the other building. Unless they get something cool (which they probably will), I never plan on visiting Saint Charles ever again!


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - lawrencewhite111 - 06-15-2012

So being that Saint Charles is a rural coal town whats the area like?.Ive been to alot of inner city fire depts and there are stations I dont even want to get out to get a station shot.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 06-15-2012

[quote name='Andrew2340' timestamp='1339779791' post='488836']

Saint Charles, VA is the only time I've ever been legitimately scared while taking pics. We were out of the vehicle no more than 2 minutes to shoot those Saint Charles rigs and get a quick station shot. I had no idea about the other trucks in the other building. Unless they get something cool (which they probably will), I never plan on visiting Saint Charles ever again!

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I'm very surprised by this. I found the people to be as nice as could be! They bent over backwards to help, and I never felt the least bit uncomfortable. In fact, in several of the articles I've done for Fire & EMS Virginia magazine, I've commented that the folks (and areas) in far Southwest Virginia were some of the nicest that I've ever met. Granted, they'll openly admit that they're 20 years behind the rest of the world down there, but even with the obvious lower incomes in the area, I never felt uncomfortable.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 06-15-2012

The last couple pages have been some of the most interesting material that I'VE seen on here in a long time!Much better than lookalike Pierces.

I prefer shooting mountainous areas give me a day in Mineral Co.,WV,Garrett Co.,MD.,or Fayette CO.,PA. anytime! (if I could afford the gas)

Sometimes you have to just "man-up" in this hobby, Deliverance was just a movie...


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - GA_Dave - 06-15-2012

Quote:Deliverance was just a movie...



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Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 06-16-2012

Finding these rural departments and the equipment they have must be a double sided sword. One on side, you are happy to find these departments running so many classics, often relying on donated equipment from thier more fortunate brothers. On the other side, you must be saddened by the fact that they can not afford to buy any new equipment, let alone put fuel in the trucks, keep them insured and maintained.



The fine print on the FIRE ACT grants specifically tell the department that the rig they are replacing cannot be used for actual fire-fighting duties again. Oh sure, they can be donated to fire-science programs, used soley as training rigs, or even for collectors. These departments shown on this thread, and I'm sure they are everywhere in small towns in rural america can use these often relatively new trucks. Having a brush truck as your first out rig because the rest of the fleet is unreliable is really sad. Kudos go out to one, these departments who make do with whatever is within thier budget, and two, those departments that are willing to help out these smaller departments. Just my two cents.....


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Fire28 - 06-16-2012

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Finding these rural departments and the equipment they have must be a double sided sword. One on side, you are happy to find these departments running so many classics, often relying on donated equipment from thier more fortunate brothers. On the other side, you must be saddened by the fact that they can not afford to buy any new equipment, let alone put fuel in the trucks, keep them insured and maintained.



The fine print on the FIRE ACT grants specifically tell the department that the rig they are replacing cannot be used for actual fire-fighting duties again. Oh sure, they can be donated to fire-science programs, used soley as training rigs, or even for collectors. These departments shown on this thread, and I'm sure they are everywhere in small towns in rural america can use these often relatively new trucks. Having a brush truck as your first out rig because the rest of the fleet is unreliable is really sad. Kudos go out to one, these departments who make do with whatever is within thier budget, and two, those departments that are willing to help out these smaller departments. Just my two cents.....

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I agree the Fire Act grants kinda suck because of the rules. However there is a "Loop Hole of Sorts" someone told me, that the Department can sell it to a "Private Party", but theres nothing that says the Private Party cant in turn sell it or donate it to a fire department for use.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 06-16-2012

[quote name='Tim' timestamp='1339854744' post='488897']

I agree the Fire Act grants kinda suck because of the rules. However there is a "Loop Hole of Sorts" someone told me, that the Department can sell it to a "Private Party", but theres nothing that says the Private Party cant in turn sell it or donate it to a fire department for use.

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Look for a change in THAT policy now that it's been pointed out.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 06-16-2012

That's been the policy all along. One of the justifications is that the purchaser (ie: a broker or dealer) would have the means to make repairs to the vehicle to make it "safe" again. But, legally, there's nothing to keep a private individual from purchasing it one day, and turning around and selling it to a FD the next day.


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - ShoreFire - 06-16-2012

If the Fire Act monies went to these needy dept's in the first place then alot of the problems would've been solved..........


Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - GA_Dave - 06-16-2012

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If the Fire Act monies went to these needy dept's in the first place then alot of the problems would've been solved..........

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