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Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - willman940 - 05-04-2013
Also, what does FSD stand for?
http://www.btfirephotos.com/2013/Bronx-5-2-13/29213671_qMMh2N#!i=2489493292&k=HLSQSzV
Its interesting to see how the companies modify their rigs, from mechanical sirens to even a chrome bumper.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - R1SmokeEater - 05-04-2013
Quote:Also, what does FSD stand for?Fleet Services Division. E90 is in a spare apparatus, from the Shops.
http://www.btfirephotos.com/2013/Bronx-5-2-13/29213671_qMMh2N#!i=2489493292&k=HLSQSzV
Its interesting to see how the companies modify their rigs, from mechanical sirens to even a chrome bumper.
On 38-Trucks chrome bumper, I will let CBX tell u about that one.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 05-04-2013
I assume that the FDNY engines don't have booster reels and that is why a lot of them have the small hoses on the front bumpers ran through the tow hooks? Also are the large compartments ( metal ) on the tops of pumpers storage for specialized equipment ? Thanks
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Marc - 05-04-2013
Quote:On 38-Trucks chrome bumper, I will let CBX tell u about that one.
38 Truck and 88 Engine have an extreme amount of house pride and always take stellar care of their rigs and firehouse. Told to me by one of the senior men in L-38, when they were about to get the new Ferrara rig, they asked the shops about a chrome bumper................and lo and behold, the rig was delivered with a chrome bumper............Only one of the job too.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Marc - 05-04-2013
Quote:I assume that the FDNY engines don't have booster reels and that is why a lot of them have the small hoses on the front bumpers ran through the tow hooks? Also are the large compartments ( metal ) on the tops of pumpers storage for specialized equipment ? Thanks
The 1986 Mack Ward 79 Engines were the last engines ordered with a booster reel. Every engine ordered after that came with the extended bumper with the space to hold 2 lengths of 1 3/4", used for car fires and rubbish.
The large metal compartments on top of the newer Seagrave rigs is used for storage. Alot of companies carry their cans of foam up there.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 05-04-2013
Quote:
The 1986 Mack Ward 79 Engines were the last engines ordered with a booster reel. Every engine ordered after that came with the extended bumper with the space to hold 2 lengths of 1 3/4", used for car fires and rubbish.
The large metal compartments on top of the newer Seagrave rigs is used for storage. Alot of companies carry their cans of foam up there.
Thanks. I saw the 13/4 lines and figured the companies added the rubber hoses as to not have to pull the 13/4 for small trash. Thanks again
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - hfd556 - 05-04-2013
Great Shots! Amazing placement of the ladders under the subway tracks.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - willman940 - 05-05-2013
Thanks for the quick reply, but the one question I still have, What is the advantage of hitting the hydrant with hard suction?
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 05-05-2013
Quote:Using the Hard Suction Line Instead of the Soft Suction Line to make the connection.
I would rather hear the original poster's answer.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 05-05-2013
Don't know if this is the reason for the reply,but here is a link to some extent... http://www.firehydrant.org/info/hdraft01.html
I never saw an advantage Hard vs. Soft in performance myself. But to use a single section of hard tube requires "precise apparatus positioning". That may be the context of the OP. I always found it a P.I.T.A.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 05-05-2013
Great Shots. I love seeing the FDNY in action.
Thanks for sharing.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - R1SmokeEater - 05-07-2013
A few more shots from a friend. John Hopper photos:
http://grogan.smugmug.com/FDNY/bronx-5th-alarm-5213/29219407_xfBkxQ#!i=2490099001&k=FhnWw9V
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - B95MACKFIRE - 05-07-2013
Joey D on 61 Truck !
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - 1958 F.W.D. - 05-24-2013
In Philadelphia, it is SOP for any engine company making hydrant connections at second alarms and greater fires to use hard sleeves. I think I may have heard the same thing about FDNY.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - tntway - 05-25-2013
not looking to be a smartass here or discuss tactics....but why?? not understanding the advantage in hard vs soft. (i never pumped so any help would be appreciated)
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 05-25-2013
It reduces friction loss from the hydrant to the pump. Most hard suction is a 6 inch diameter, although other sizes are available. I know some of the light weight suction hose is not rated to be used under pressure (connecting to hydrants), and has a small warning label on it. Not sure what size and type of hard suction FDNY uses.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Roto-Ray - 05-25-2013
While this doesn't directly answer some of the above questions, this article about Chicago's use of hard sleeve on the hydrants is pretty interesting: http://www.firehouse.com/blog/10850756/fornell-hydrant-hook-ups-chicago-style
As Grumpy mentioned, don't hook the transparent, lightweight stuff to a hydrant - bad things happen.
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Truckman - 05-26-2013
For years Memphis Fire Department Pumpers, ran with a 30 foot squirrel tail semi flexible hard sleeve.
http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/index.php?showtopic=35&page=11
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - tntway - 05-26-2013
Grumpy, Taylor and John thanks so much for the info. makes everything much clearer. Taylor that article was SUPERB!!!
Bronx 5th Alarm 05/02/13 - Guest - 06-08-2013
Nice pic love the pic for the fdny all way good for for you guys