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Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - mnsand - 02-16-2008
[quote name='Dave McClung' post='189517' date='Feb 16 2008, 17:21 ']Mike,
I am loving the old FFX County stuff. One of these days I will crack open the crate with my 96/97 shots from FFX CO to scan and post.[/quote]
Thanks Dave.... I would love to see those from your collection.
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - maxim - 02-16-2008
[quote name='mnsand' post='189523' date='Feb 16 2008, 17:27 ']Thanks Dave.... I would love to see those from your collection.
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA[/quote]
Mike I understand the new Engine 19 for LCFR is in at Station 9. Stop by maybe the Captain will pull it out for a posed "first photo" also LCFR E 4-10-16 and L-19 are at Singer. The tower should be at 19 very soon
<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sleep.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='-_-' />
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Roto-Ray - 02-16-2008
Mike, as always, I'm not sure if fire apparatus photos cab cause V-Fib, but I think it might have in my case! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stretcher.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> The slides you were able to purchase tell such an unspoken history of the Virginia fire service, and I (like so many others on here) can not thank you enough for posting these wonderful images. I only hope that the photos that you, Jerry, John, Paul, Jeff, Dale, and the rest of us are taking will help preserve history in much the same way. The deputy chief from West Point is an engine man on my shift, I'll ask him the history of the WP ladders when we go back to work on Tuesday. That white tiller makes me feel funny. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Now as for this one...Chantilly's 1951 Ford Big Job/American 500/500. Chantilly had a variety of trucks painted white and pumpers with the rear wind shield. Note the number 2 on the door - the second fire truck purchased by the Chantilly volunteers....I found it at a fire-truck graveyard about three years in Louisa County, between Mineral and Bumpass. The ex-wife is living up that way now, I'll see if she can confirm it's still there for us.
Can't wait to see the next batch!
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - mnsand - 02-16-2008
[quote name='maxim' post='189526' date='Feb 16 2008, 17:40 ']Mike I understand the new Engine 19 for LCFR is in at Station 9. Stop by maybe the Captain will pull it out for a posed "first photo" also LCFR E 4-10-16 and L-19 are at Singer. The tower should be at 19 very soon
<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sleep.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='-_-' />[/quote]I heard about the new Engine 19 and look forward to photographing that and the new Tower soon. I saw Engine 16 at Singer's a couple of weeks ago and it looks nice. I appreciate the information.
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - mnsand - 02-16-2008
[quote name='Roto-Ray' post='189536' date='Feb 16 2008, 18:16 ']Mike, as always, I'm not sure if fire apparatus photos cab cause V-Fib, but I think it might have in my case! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stretcher.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> The slides you were able to purchase tell such an unspoken history of the Virginia fire service, and I (like so many others on here) can not thank you enough for posting these wonderful images. I only hope that the photos that you, Jerry, John, Paul, Jeff, Dale, and the rest of us are taking will help preserve history in much the same way. The deputy chief from West Point is an engine man on my shift, I'll ask him the history of the WP ladders when we go back to work on Tuesday. That white tiller makes me feel funny. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Now as for this one...Chantilly's 1951 Ford Big Job/American 500/500. Chantilly had a variety of trucks painted white and pumpers with the rear wind shield. Note the number 2 on the door - the second fire truck purchased by the Chantilly volunteers....I found it at a fire-truck graveyard about three years in Louisa County, between Mineral and Bumpass. The ex-wife is living up that way now, I'll see if she can confirm it's still there for us.
Can't wait to see the next batch![/quote]
Taylor,
Glad you are enjoying the older ones. So many FD's really had "humble" beginnings when you see these old apparatus.
I am curious about the Chantilly engine - it was my understanding that Chantilly's 1968 International/Young at one point ended up at the Trevilians VFD in approximately 1983. I had heard that a Chantilly engine was in a junk yard in that area, and assumed it was the 1968. I would be very curious what you find.
Thanks Taylor,
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 02-16-2008
[quote name='mnsand' post='189567' date='Feb 16 2008, 21:17 ']Taylor,
Glad you are enjoying the older ones. So many FD's really had "humble" beginnings when you see these old apparatus.
I am curious about the Chantilly engine - it was my understanding that Chantilly's 1968 International/Young at one point ended up at the Trevilians VFD in approximately 1983. I had heard that a Chantilly engine was in a junk yard in that area, and assumed it was the 1968. I would be very curious what you find.
Thanks Taylor,
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA[/quote]
Mike/Taylor,
Chantilly's 1959 IHC is on Fredericks Hall Rd just east on Mineral (Louisa Co.) before you get to the rail crossing. I do not have any info on the '68 (known as the White Elephant in FFX) after it left Fairfax's Training Center.
Paul
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - yvfdco8 - 02-17-2008
This was Yorkshire's first new engine, last seen on a farm in Amissville VA.
[quote name='mnsand' post='189475' date='Feb 16 2008, 16:13 ']Two from Yorkshire, Virginia in Prince William County.
Engine 84 <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/huh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> is a 1956 Ford F/American with a 500 gpm pump.Photographed in 1975.
Mike Sanders collection
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA[/quote]
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - ur second in - 02-17-2008
information on the west point units...
the 59 Ford/Oren was originally owned by the Chesapeake Corporation for use by their forestry division for controlled burns. It proved to be too large and they donated it to West Point. the original lettering for Chesapeake stayed in place and the words donated by were added to it. the west point markings were added in front of the rear wheels this unit was refurbed and repainted at one point and the west point lettering was repainted on the door. this unit is no longer owned by the department but it is owned by a member. if you look closely at the paint on the panels in front of the rear wheels you can still see where the old lettering is. Also during the refurb the grill and front bumper were replaced with chrome. one more interesting note about this unit is that the steamer connection on the officers side is under the crew seat and you have to open the crew's door to get to it.
the Lafrance midmount to my knowledge was a 49 but i could be wrong. my Dad did alot of work to this unit as a volunteer in west point. the Pioneer Hook and Ladder Graphics were never removed. West Points Markings were put on either side under the jump seat. there was also a west point sign on either side of the ladder. to my knowledge this unit only left the station on 2 fires in the 10 to 12 years west point owned it.
the white tiller i don't know much about but i do know that it was given/sold to west point by the Williamsburg Fire Department hence the white paint. the ladder was pulled by the chassis of a former garbage truck. the reason there were 2 ladders in west point at this time was this was about the time that the la france replaced the tiller.
the lafrance is sitting in a field in Suffolk or Chesapeake and hasn't been tended to for many years.
the tiller's where abouts are unknown to my knowledge
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 02-17-2008
[quote name='mnsand' post='189450' date='Feb 16 2008, 14:12 ']This is one I have been trying to find a photograph of for a number of years.
Winchester once had the Sara Zane fire company which closed a number of years ago. I believe the last fire truck they purchased was this 1981 Mack MC611F12 with serial number 1053. 1250/500.
When Sara Zane closed, the Mack was sold to the Greenwood, VA VFD, located just outside of Winchester and re-painted yellow and white. The Mack is now running as a Berkeley County, West Virginia county reserve engine. I photographed it at South Berkeley's Inwood, Virginia sub-station several years ago.
Mike Sanders collection.
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA[/quote]
For what it's worth, the Sarah Zane Fire Department in Winchester, VA ordered another Mack MC611 in late 1980/early 81 (S/N 1077) but I guess they were unable to afford it. It was sent around to various Mack dealers as a Demo model and eventually ended up being bought by the Youngstown, Ohio Fire Department.
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - mnsand - 02-17-2008
[quote name='ur second in' post='189743' date='Feb 17 2008, 16:10 ']information on the west point units...
the 59 Ford/Oren was originally owned by the Chesapeake Corporation for use by their forestry division for controlled burns. It proved to be too large and they donated it to West Point. the original lettering for Chesapeake stayed in place and the words donated by were added to it. the west point markings were added in front of the rear wheels this unit was refurbed and repainted at one point and the west point lettering was repainted on the door. this unit is no longer owned by the department but it is owned by a member. if you look closely at the paint on the panels in front of the rear wheels you can still see where the old lettering is. Also during the refurb the grill and front bumper were replaced with chrome. one more interesting note about this unit is that the steamer connection on the officers side is under the crew seat and you have to open the crew's door to get to it.
the Lafrance midmount to my knowledge was a 49 but i could be wrong. my Dad did alot of work to this unit as a volunteer in west point. the Pioneer Hook and Ladder Graphics were never removed. West Points Markings were put on either side under the jump seat. there was also a west point sign on either side of the ladder. to my knowledge this unit only left the station on 2 fires in the 10 to 12 years west point owned it.
the white tiller i don't know much about but i do know that it was given/sold to west point by the Williamsburg Fire Department hence the white paint. the ladder was pulled by the chassis of a former garbage truck. the reason there were 2 ladders in west point at this time was this was about the time that the la france replaced the tiller.
the lafrance is sitting in a field in Suffolk or Chesapeake and hasn't been tended to for many years.
the tiller's where abouts are unknown to my knowledge[/quote]
Very interesting....thank you for adding this to the thread.
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - mnsand - 02-17-2008
[quote name='yfdgricker' post='189746' date='Feb 17 2008, 16:35 ']For what it's worth, the Sarah Zane Fire Department in Winchester, VA ordered another Mack MC611 in late 1980/early 81 (S/N 1077) but I guess they were unable to afford it. It was sent around to various Mack dealers as a Demo model and eventually ended up being bought by the Youngstown, Ohio Fire Department.[/quote]
Greg,
I never knew that about Sara Zane and the additional Mack. Does anyone have information on where s/n 1077 ended up?
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - ur second in - 02-17-2008
also one more thing to note that i just noticed in the picture of the white tiller is it still had W.F.D. and not W.P.V.F.D.
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - ur second in - 02-17-2008
one more thing... both ladders were considered ladder 9 not ladder 1.
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 02-17-2008
[quote name='mnsand' date='Feb 16 2008, 16:06 ' post='189471']
The final Ahrens Fox at Warrenton was this 1949 model with a 500 gpm that ran as Engine 4. It was sold for scrap.
Post 673 - Model VC sn 9113, delivered 3-16-49, motor #140136.
Mike- Thanks for posting these Foxes. They're centrifugal pumpers and certainly present a different appearance from the ball front piston jobs.
Phil, Bklyn.
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 02-18-2008
[quote name='mnsand' post='189505' date='Feb 16 2008, 16:57 ']A favorite of mine in Fairfax County - Great Falls Station 12 ran this impressive 1963 GMC/American with a 750 gpm pump and 1000 gallon water tank.
After serving Great Falls, it was sold to Greenwood, Virginia, was then sold to Linden, Virginia, to Zion Cross Roads, Virginia, and then to White Plains, Missouri. I am not sure of the disposition of this truck now.
Mike Sanders collection
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA[/quote]
That Herndon Ford brings back fond memories. My grandfather and two of my uncles served as vollies on that rig before the station was turned over to the county. Both uncles went on to become career Fairfax County firefighters.
Speaking of Great Falls, I'll try to find a couple shots taken by me in '05 of their former '55 GMC/American sitting outside my uncle's garage/shop in Herndon. He owns it now and is in the process of restoring it. He found it in Tennessee in service with a VFD in that state.
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - Guest - 02-18-2008
[quote name='mnsand' post='189750' date='Feb 17 2008, 16:51 ']Greg,
I never knew that about Sara Zane and the additional Mack. Does anyone have information on where s/n 1077 ended up?
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA[/quote]
Hi Mike,
Sure do. I bought the 1077 in April of 2007 after the YFD decommissioned it Jan 1, 2007. I have been restoring it back to the way it looked when it was delivered to the Youngstown Fire Department in 1981. I contacted the Mack Museum in Allentown and in the paperwork they sent me back, it had that the 1077 was originally speced and built for the Sarah Zane Fire Dept, Winchester, VA. In a local Youngstown newspaper article when we took delivery of the Mack MC, it said that 1077 was one of 4 built for a department but that they were only able to accept delivery of 2. Attached is a pic of 1077 (Ex Youngstown, OH) from September 9th, 2007. Hope that helps.
![[Image: Gregs+1980+Mack+MC_2007-09-09+-+Gregs+Ma....small.jpg]](http://www.youngstownfire2.com/gallery/cache/Gregs+1980+Mack+MC_2007-09-09+-+Gregs+Mack+19_WorkParty_+007.jpg.small.jpg)
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - mnsand - 02-18-2008
[quote name='yfdgricker' post='189950' date='Feb 18 2008, 11:42 ']Hi Mike,
Sure do. I bought the 1077 in April of 2007 after the YFD decommissioned it Jan 1, 2007. I have been restoring it back to the way it looked when it was delivered to the Youngstown Fire Department in 1981. I contacted the Mack Museum in Allentown and in the paperwork they sent me back, it had that the 1077 was originally speced and built for the Sarah Zane Fire Dept, Winchester, VA. In a local Youngstown newspaper article when we took delivery of the Mack MC, it said that 1077 was one of 4 built for a department but that they were only able to accept delivery of 2. Attached is a pic of 1077 (Ex Youngstown, OH) from September 9th, 2007. Hope that helps.
![[Image: Gregs%201980%20Mack%20MC_2007-09-09%20-%....small.jpg]](http://www.youngstownfire2.com/gallery/cache/Gregs%201980%20Mack%20MC_2007-09-09%20-%20Gregs%20Mack%2019_WorkParty_%20007.jpg.small.jpg)
[/quote]Greg,
Fascinating! You ask where it went, and you get the exact source. Firepics is great.
I have used the Mack Museum in Allentown on several occassions and the information provided has been outstanding.
Thank you for filling in some Virginia history gaps.
Mike Sanders
Ashburn, VA
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - yvfdfirefighter - 02-21-2008
Yorkshire VFD's New Engine 508A (Prince William County)
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - yvfdfirefighter - 02-21-2008
Yorkshire VFD's New Engine 508A (Prince William County)
Virginia apparatus - miscellaneous - yvfdfirefighter - 02-21-2008
Yorkshire VFD's New Engine 508A (Prince William County)