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Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 11-20-2008
Port Jervis, NY
Fowler's Rescue & Salvage Co. No. 3
1973 WLF/Saulsbury
300/300
Jack Greible Collection
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Truckman - 11-20-2008
[quote name='firebuff55407' post='259317' date='Nov 5 2008, 18:25 ']Minneapolis operated four rather unique 1954 Ward LaFrance 1250/000 sedan pumpers. Pictured here is MFD Engine 28 using WLF serial #3407, which had been assigned to MFD Engine 27 when it was first delivered in December of 1954. A 250-gallon water tank was retrofitted by the MFD shops in 1968 when our first freeway opened in the city.
- Photo by Steve Ska[/quote]
Steve, this one almost looks like a Mack!
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-15-2008
Monroeville Pa
Co#4
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-15-2008
Quote:Monroeville Pa
Co#4
1975 Ward LaFrance P80-1500D-5
1500/500/55' Telerise
#80-1077
Sold to Alpine City, UT
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - hp1530 - 12-15-2008
Dave,
Do you have the serials for any of the WLF delivered to the Los Angeles City or County Fire depts? I think the county still has a few Wards around as their training engines. Then there's the famous E51 from Emergency! at the museum.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-15-2008
Quote:Do you have the serials for any of the WLF delivered to the Los Angeles City or County Fire depts?
LA County:
80-592 through 80-622, 80-658 through 80-666, 80-671 through 80-675, and 80-1040 through 80-1047. They were 1972 and 1974 models, diesel powered, most were 1000/400 and all had canopy cabs.
LA City:
80-1273 through 80-1283, 80-1322 through 80-1331, and 80-1452. All were 1976 models, open cab 1500/500, with diesels.
Universal Studios:
80-811 was "Engine 51", a 1972 canopy cab diesel 1000/400.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - hp1530 - 12-15-2008
[quote name='GA_Dave' post='266438' date='Dec 15 2008, 19:09 ']LA County:
80-592 through 80-622, 80-658 through 80-666, 80-671 through 80-675, and 80-1040 through 80-1047. They were 1972 and 1974 models, diesel powered, most were 1000/400 and all had canopy cabs.
LA City:
80-1273 through 80-1283, 80-1322 through 80-1331, and 80-1452. All were 1976 models, open cab 1500/500, with diesels.
Universal Studios:
80-811 was "Engine 51", a 1972 canopy cab diesel 1000/400.[/quote]
Thanks! My hats off to you Dave. Were any of the LA City rigs special built? I don't recall many other customers who ordered open cab Wards.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-16-2008
Quote:Were any of the LA City rigs special built?
Depends on what you mean by "special built". Custom apparatus are just that, "custom", or customer specified. Within the parameters of WLF's designs, the LA City rigs were special built for LA City.
Quote:I don't recall many other customers who ordered open cab Wards.
Including the 22 for LA, Ward LaFrance built at least 73 open cab Model 80 apparatus and at least 18 Model 82's (TCM cab).
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-16-2008
[quote name='GA_Dave' post='266438' date='Dec 15 2008, 22:09 ']Universal Studios:
80-811 was "Engine 51", a 1972 canopy cab diesel 1000/400.[/quote]
I have always seen this refered to as a 1973 rig...
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-16-2008
[quote name='GA_Dave' post='266432' date='Dec 15 2008, 21:04 ']1975 Ward LaFrance P80-1500D-5
1500/500/55' Telerise
#80-1077
Sold to Alpine City, UT[/quote]
Any idea if it's still out in Alpine City, UT?
Thanks,
Tom
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-16-2008
Quote:I have always seen this refered to as a 1973 rig...
Oops! That was a typo on my part, it's a '73. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/doh.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Quote:Any idea if it's still out in Alpine City, UT?
Not a clue.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-17-2008
Steve,
I have a slide of Brookfield Twp. Oh after it was refurbed. The basket was level with the escape ladder when finished.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-17-2008
Quote:Dallas, TX
1963 WLF #80-0014
Gas/manual
1000/?
The info I have shows that 80-14 was a 75' Hi-Ranger delivered to Dallas. 80-15 and 80-16 also went to Dallas, but I have no info on them. Dallas purchased several similar pumpers in the early 1960's. All the ones I have specs for show them to be 750/550
Quote:Elmira Heights, NY
Gas/manual
750/500
(Well, what brand did you expect them to buy?)
80-80
1965 P80-750A-5
750/500
E-721 Elmira Heights, NY
Quote:New Orleans, LA
196? WLF
Gas/manual
100'
80-89 1965 P80-TD-100, was assigned to H&L 8.
Quote:Newark, NJ
1966 WLF #80-107
Gas/manual
100'
H&L 9
1966, T80-100A, 100' Thibault ladder.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-17-2008
Quote:Brookfield Twp. (Ohio?)
1000/?/85' Readi-Tower
Unit 9
80-1266 1976, 1500/250/85', Brookfield Township, OH
Quote:?
1500/?/35'
(unidentified rig...help!)
Not much to go on here. The articulating water tower was introduced by WLF as the "Telerise" in 1972, this may have ben a demo unit. The name Telerise was dropped due to conflicts with the Snorkel folks. It was known from that point on at the "AWT". Typical tank size was 500 gallons, but it could have been smaller, 300 was also common. It has a diesel. My info shows all of the AWT's as being 55'.
Quote:
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - GA_Dave - 12-17-2008
Quote:For whatever this is worth, that VIN came from Dick Gergel.
As did much of the basis for the database I have. With that particular number, someone else provided me with info that showed that it belonged to one of the Dallas Hi-Ranger platforms. Dallas had several, in addition to the fleet of pumpers and midhsip aerials. Steve Skaar posted shots of a lot of them, with numbers, taken by him or Duane Troxel, but not all. I still do not have everything straight on the Dallas rigs.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-19-2008
Overhead view of Phila. FD E-20
1978 photo by J. Floyd, Jenkins collection
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-19-2008
[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='267241' date='Dec 19 2008, 18:03 ']Overhead view of Phila. FD E-20
1978 photo by J. Floyd, Jenkins collection[/quote]
WOW look near the booster reel... anyone eles remember the "Suitcases" for Scott Packs? Also PFD running the Red Bump Caps!!! That is History there.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-19-2008
The guys in the red bump caps are not members of the P.F.D. They are members of the Phila. Second Alarmers.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-19-2008
[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='267241' date='Dec 19 2008, 18:03 ']Overhead view of Phila. FD E-20
1978 photo by J. Floyd, Jenkins collection[/quote]
Very cool shot. I do remember the Scott "suitcases". The MSA filter type had them as well, in red as I recall.
Ward LaFrance Ultravision - Guest - 12-19-2008
[quote name='rotoray' post='267253' date='Dec 19 2008, 20:27 ']The guys in the red bump caps are not members of the P.F.D. They are members of the Phila. Second Alarmers.[/quote]
I do remember the Drivers had a special cap of some type too. The water jug should have given these SA members away...