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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-10-2011
Scott,
The Norton Ladder was sold to the Town of Rehobeth Ma (about 10 miles from Norton). It was their first ladder truck and was just re-placed by an 1985 Pemfab/E-One purchased in 2009.
BTW......what are you using to scan the slides? I have to get off my backside and start mine.
THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - msm618 - 10-11-2011
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BTW......what are you using to scan the slides? I have to get off my backside and start mine.
Frank, can't wait! Scott, whatever you are using, the shots posted here are of very high quality.
Thank you both for posting!
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-11-2011
Thanks for the update. Here is the original dilly on the Norton rig:
1980 Mack CF/American LaFrance/Hamerly 100’
Original build date on door plate October 1979. Build # AL-1-1089. Mack chassis id
# CF686FCA-1325. Originally ordered and painted white/lime yellow for Manchester City, NH. Mack sent the chassis to ALF who mounted the aerial device and outriggers properly and then sent the truck to Hamerly for the final body work. Jack Murphy from Mack Allentown was the main sales rep. The deal with Manchester fell thru when the truck was not accepted as it was found to be overweight on the front. In a last ditched effort to get the sale, Hamerly retrofitted the outriggers inappropriately and quickly repainted the truck red for Norton. Sale price $285,000. When Norton went to do the final inspection at Mack, the truck could not be found. After checking a few different locations, it was eventually found in a barn somewhere out in the country, probably one of Hamerly’s barns. The truck had to later be resprung to be legal. Mack lost so much money on the deal Mack wouldn’t even fill the fuel tanks for the trip home to Norton and bought the members a cheap lunch instead. Norton used the truck from 1980-2000 and then sold it for $5,000 to nearby Rehoboth, Mass where it was last in service as of 2011. It was rehabbed by Walker around 1993.
THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-12-2011
[quote name='Chester911' timestamp='1318349634' post='460110']
Thanks for the update. Here is the original dilly on the Norton rig:
1980 Mack CF/American LaFrance/Hamerly 100’
Original build date on door plate October 1979. Build # AL-1-1089. Mack chassis id
# CF686FCA-1325. Originally ordered and painted white/lime yellow for Manchester City, NH. Mack sent the chassis to ALF who mounted the aerial device and outriggers properly and then sent the truck to Hamerly for the final body work. Jack Murphy from Mack Allentown was the main sales rep. The deal with Manchester fell thru when the truck was not accepted as it was found to be overweight on the front. In a last ditched effort to get the sale, Hamerly retrofitted the outriggers inappropriately and quickly repainted the truck red for Norton. Sale price $285,000. When Norton went to do the final inspection at Mack, the truck could not be found. After checking a few different locations, it was eventually found in a barn somewhere out in the country, probably one of Hamerly’s barns. The truck had to later be resprung to be legal. Mack lost so much money on the deal Mack wouldn’t even fill the fuel tanks for the trip home to Norton and bought the members a cheap lunch instead. Norton used the truck from 1980-2000 and then sold it for $5,000 to nearby Rehoboth, Mass where it was last in service as of 2011. It was rehabbed by Walker around 1993.
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I had heard this was the fiasco caused by this rig was the reason Mack ended both the ALF and Hammerly as sub-contractors for aerial ladders , helped with Hammerly's decent into bankruptcy, and that Mack then went to LTI/CCP to develop the Bulldog I aerial (a somewhat lighter LTI design, still based on the best aerial ever built, the Grove!) Please feel free to correct me or add aditional comments. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_12_21.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
Hubbard Township, OH had this classic Seagrave pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
Wooster, OH had this 1945 Seagrave 750 gpm pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
Wooster, OH also had this 1947 Seagrave 1000 gpm pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
This 1941 ALF JOX 100' ladder is X-Buffalo, NY. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
Pennsburg, PA operated this Seagrave quint. No other info. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
Eatontown, NJ had this American LaFrance pumper. Apologies for the poor resolution....duplicate slide. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sleep.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='-_-' /> Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
The West End FC of Stowe, PA ran this Ward LaFrance pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
Brewster, MA had this 1941 Buffalo pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-13-2011
[quote name='tascman' timestamp='1318543228' post='460355']
Pennsburg, PA operated this Seagrave quint. No other info. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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1946 Seagrave quint, 65' aerial, 750gpm pump ex Fairmount Fire Company of Lansdale, PA.
THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-14-2011
[quote name='tascman' timestamp='1318187357' post='459691']
The Lincoln FPD in CA had this 1949 White 750/800 pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Van Pelt rig. Nice collection of White-Van Pelt rigs, tascman (the Santa Cruz and Pacific open cab Whites you posted earlier are also Van Pelts).
California dreamin'...
THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - fyrfoto - 10-14-2011
[quote name='tascman' timestamp='1317677490' post='458928']
Erie, PA Engine # 1 was this American LaFrance 700 Series pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Now that's a firehouse! Complete with an assortment of old wooden chairs out front.
THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-16-2011
I've scanned a few more things from the dusty boxes found deep in storage. Some New York stuff for John, ALFs for Bob, and for whomever else enjoys the older stuff. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-16-2011
Burlington, VT had this 1972 Mack CF 1000 gpm pumper. John Sytsma pic/Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-16-2011
Salt Lake City, UT ran this classic Seagrave pumper. Bill Schwartz pic/Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-16-2011
Ventura City, CA operated this 1943 Seagrave 65' midship ladder truck. Mike Graham pic/Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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THINGS FROM MY COLLECTION - Guest - 10-16-2011
Frankfort, IL ran this beautiful American LaFrance pumper equipped with an overhead ladder rack. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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