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TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-04-2007
[quote name='1961MackC95' post='153491' date='Oct 4 2007, 07:22 ']I guess the old adage from Mack wasn't taken seriously-"Quality Counts!" <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/idea.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />[/quote]Ohh, ohh. Ouch! That one hurt. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stretcher.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-04-2007
[quote name='biotelbob' post='153565' date='Oct 4 2007, 10:49 ']Once, I went by Sta. 3 and they were driving this reserve 1953 ALF, 100 ft while their regular Truck was in the shop.[/quote]
Could that possibly be Reg. No. L-5322, a 1955 American LaFrance 700 Series 85-foot Aerial? It looks to be newer than a 1953, and I can't find any listings for a 1953 Aerial (although there is a listing for a 1953 Engine).
Bob, do you have any pictures of the ALF 700 Engines that Beaumont had?
Thanks!
TEXAS RIGS - 1961MackC95 - 10-05-2007
[quote name='1949ALF' post='153581' date='Oct 4 2007, 13:56 ']Ohh, ohh. Ouch! That one hurt. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stretcher.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />[/quote]As the former coach of the professional football team in Dallas was fond of saying:
"It is what it is." <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> Lindsay D
Richardson, TX
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-05-2007
[quote name='1949ALF' post='153583' date='Oct 4 2007, 14:01 ']Could that possibly be Reg. No. L-5322, a 1955 American LaFrance 700 Series 85-foot Aerial? It looks to be newer than a 1953, and I can't find any listings for a 1953 Aerial (although there is a listing for a 1953 Engine).
Bob, do you have any pictures of the ALF 700 Engines that Beaumont had?
Thanks![/quote]
That Truck is the only 700 series of Beaumont's that I was able to get. Thanks for the corrections on the truck's spec. I assumed it was a 100 footer due to the 4 section ladder. Don't know how I acquired the year 1953. That 700 series engine(s) you mentioned I saw when I was growing up in Beaumont. Station 4 (in my neighborhood) ran one of them or the only one. By the time I started to photograph rigs, I couldn't find it anywhere unfortunately, and no one I talked to new anything about it or what became of it. I can tell you it was an open cab but they put one of those riot canopies similar to what the FDNY put on their app. back in the 60's when there was the riot threat. I think Beaumont did it for the comfort of the crew however. Duane Troxel might have gotten a shot of it. I'm wanting to try to contact Steve Skaar to see. Also, the references you have with the ALF listings, is that on the internet somewhere where anyone can access it? I'd like to check it out. Thanks again, Robert.
TEXAS RIGS - e290l103 - 10-05-2007
you refer to Engine 12 being a twin to Engine 1's rig.
did Beaumont have 3 1981 Mack CF's or just the 2 with one of the companies E1, E5 or E12 getting a hand me down rig?
thanks.
Mike
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-06-2007
[quote name='FDNYTRUCKS.com' post='153751' date='Oct 5 2007, 09:14 ']you refer to Engine 12 being a twin to Engine 1's rig.
did Beaumont have 3 1981 Mack CF's or just the 2 with one of the companies E1, E5 or E12 getting a hand me down rig?
thanks.
Mike[/quote]
Sorry, I'm gonna have to retake basic addition/subtraction again. You're absolutely right, they had 3 Mack CF's and not 2.
TEXAS RIGS - jgohio - 10-07-2007
[quote name='1949ALF' post='153583' date='Oct 4 2007, 14:01 ']Could that possibly be Reg. No. L-5322, a 1955 American LaFrance 700 Series 85-foot Aerial? It looks to be newer than a 1953, and I can't find any listings for a 1953 Aerial (although there is a listing for a 1953 Engine).
Bob, do you have any pictures of the ALF 700 Engines that Beaumont had?
Thanks![/quote]
ALF49,
I wasn't able to check the number, but I think you have it right. It happens I was in the same building with this rig today. It is in the collection of the Lone Star Fire Museum in Houston, Texas. I just talked to Chuck Buschardt at the LSFM and he confirmed it was a 1955 model (left the factory 10-28-55) and that Beaumont also had a 1953 ALF 700 pumper. Ken Paradowski who I mention often as scanning and archiving Chuck Buschardt's photos, has done much of the restoration work on this x-Beaumont rig. The reels have been taken off the sides. The truck is in pretty good shape. I'll try to post a shot or two of it in its current status when I get back to Ohio. Great to see a shot of it in service.
Joe
TEXAS RIGS - jgohio - 10-07-2007
[quote name='biotelbob' post='153750' date='Oct 5 2007, 08:37 ']That Truck is the only 700 series of Beaumont's that I was able to get. Thanks for the corrections on the truck's spec. I assumed it was a 100 footer due to the 4 section ladder. Don't know how I acquired the year 1953. That 700 series engine(s) you mentioned I saw when I was growing up in Beaumont. Station 4 (in my neighborhood) ran one of them or the only one. By the time I started to photograph rigs, I couldn't find it anywhere unfortunately, and no one I talked to new anything about it or what became of it. I can tell you it was an open cab but they put one of those riot canopies similar to what the FDNY put on their app. back in the 60's when there was the riot threat. I think Beaumont did it for the comfort of the crew however. Duane Troxel might have gotten a shot of it. I'm wanting to try to contact Steve Skaar to see. Also, the references you have with the ALF listings, is that on the internet somewhere where anyone can access it? I'd like to check it out. Thanks again, Robert.[/quote]
Chuck checked "The List" and found only 2 700 series listed for Beamont, the '53 engine and 1955 truck. The list is from factory records and was compiled by John Peckham. Chuck B. thinks Matt Lee of Plymouth, Mich might have copies. He is probaly listed in the SPAAMFAA Directory. I don't think it's available online.
Joe
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-07-2007
[quote name='jgohio' post='154139' date='Oct 6 2007, 23:15 ']I wasn't able to check the number, but I think you have it right. It happens I was in the same building with this rig today. It is in the collection of the Lone Star Fire Museum in Houston, Texas. I just talked to Chuck Buschardt at the LSFM and he confirmed it was a 1955 model (left the factory 10-28-55) and that Beaumont also had a 1953 ALF 700 pumper. Ken Paradowski who I mention often as scanning and archiving Chuck Buschardt's photos, has done much of the restoration work on this x-Beaumont rig. The reels have been taken off the sides. The truck is in pretty good shape. I'll try to post a shot or two of it in its current status when I get back to Ohio. Great to see a shot of it in service.[/quote]
I had no idea that was the one Chuck has now. Of course, I haven't talked to him for quite some time. The last time we were at his place was during the SPAAMFAA Nationals in 2005. Now that you've mentioned it, I might have a picture of that truck. I'll have to check. I'd love to see more pictures of it, though.
Here's the information for at least four ALF 700s that were delivered to Beaumont, Texas:
1947 American LaFrance 700 Series 100-foot Aerial
7-100-AJO, Reg. No. L-3105
1948 American LaFrance 700 Series Engine
775-PJO, Reg. No. L-3519
1953 American LaFrance 700 Series Engine
775-PJO, Reg. No. L-4843
1955 American LaFrance 700 Series 85-foot Aerial
7-85-AJO, Reg. No. L-5322
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
Here are some past/present rigs from McKinney, Texas, a growing city to the north of Dallas. First is this Dept. built 1952 AMC General, 150/750.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
Next is this 1977 Ford/ Modular Corp. ambulance. It was a BLS unit at the time during the transition to a paramedic service.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
This was a reserve engine. 1948 ALF, 1000/300.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
Here was another BLS unit, 1977 Chevy/Swab.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
I believe this was a booster. 1964 Ford/Fire Appliance, 350/500.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
One of their engines was this 1972 Intern'l/? body, 500/500. Anyone know who the body is built by?
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
This 1977 ALF/Snorkel, 70 ft, was their Truck Co.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
This 1981 Ford/E-One, 1250/500 was placed in service as Engine 1.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
In 1996, two of these engines were purchased along with a Quint. 1996 Simon-Duplex/LTI, 1500/500/30f, Engine 1.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
The Quint was a 1996 Simon-Duplex/LTI, 75 ft/1500/500/25f, Engine 2.
TEXAS RIGS - Guest - 10-12-2007
Here's another shot of it from last year.