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Hose beds/loads - Truckman - 02-08-2008
Richmond, VA
All are Truckman Photos
This is a 1978 American LaFrance, 1500/500 Pumper, ran as Wagon 1
of a two piece company in a high value district
The two larger beds, carried 800Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a supply line, packed for a forward lay
The left hose trough carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose line with a wye connected
The right hose trough carried brooms, mops, gas and water key, rakes, shovels
On the rear horizontal bar carried 8 hose tools (straps)
This rig has two crosslay above the pump panel with 150Ft each of 1-1/2” hose
The rear step compartments were transverse
This is a 1965 Mack, 1000/300 Pumper assigned at the time of the photo as a Reserve
But was originally Engine 14 Pumper
The two large beds carried 700Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a supply line, packed for a forward lay
The two left hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each preconnected
The two right hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each connected to a wye
Hose beds/loads - Truckman - 02-08-2008
Richmond, VA
All are Truckman Photos
This is a 1970 Maxim, 1000/500 Pumper, ran as Engine 18
The left large bed, carried 1000Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a secondary supply line, packed for a forward lay
The right large bed, carried 1000FT of 4” large diameter hose as the primary supply line
The left two hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose line each preconneced
The right hose trough carried 150FT of 1-1/2” hose line with wye
High rise hose lines were carried on the left and right side, one under the hard sleeve and the other under the ground ladders
Note – This rig hose load, look real good as it had just been repacked as the pumper had been returned from the shop for tank repair
This is a 1962 Mack, 1000/300 Pumper assigned to Squad 2
The two large beds carried 700Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a supply line, packed for a forward lay
Note this hose bed was connected together
The two left hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each preconnected
The two right hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each connected to a wye
The box on the rear step was loaded with a Hurst tool and other accessories
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-08-2008
John,
So if you all needed a 2.5 hand line, did you snag the sections out of the supply bed?
Hose beds/loads - yvfdfirefighter - 02-08-2008
Yorkshire VFD - Wagon 508
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
John,
Love the old ones. I started with 1200' of 2 1/2 in a horseshoe with a skid on top. You and Steve Loftin
have made me 20yrs pld again.
ppfd,
You've got it figured out. Back in the day there were places where you either used the booster or you used 2 1/2,
not everyone used 1 1/2.
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
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Hose beds/loads - Truckman - 02-09-2008
[quote name='ppfd' post='187618' date='Feb 8 2008, 22:30 ']John,
So if you all needed a 2.5 hand line, did you snag the sections out of the supply bed?[/quote]
Well after you had laid out the supply line, then you could pull what ever additional 2-1/2" line off you needed and put a nozzle on it and take it in. If you were going to use the wye, then the driver or some one would pull enough line off to be near the front door or where you were going to make an entrance and the other members would attached the wye after laying it out. Hopefully before the pump operator down the street loaded that 1-1/2 line. The first photo of the AmLaFrance had double 2-1/2" discharges on the rear. Sometime after this photo was taken, any rigs that had this set up was ordered to make up at least one preconnected 2-1/2" lay to either or both rear discharges. I was a Lt at the 21's and had the twin to Wagon 1 as an triple combination pumper and if memory serves me correctly we had one 2-1/2" preconnect and the other discharge had a connection set up for a foam eductor. I will see if I have a photo of that ride and post it later.
Wagonman, I am glad I could make you feel younger and take you back a few years like we
"old" guys had to operate.
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
[quote name='Truckman' post='187689' date='Feb 9 2008, 12:46 ']Well after you had laid out the supply line, then you could pull what ever additional 2-1/2" line off you needed and put a nozzle on it and take it in. If you were going to use the wye, then the driver or some one would pull enough line off to be near the front door or where you were going to make an entrance and the other members would attached the wye after laying it out.[/quote]
John,
This is exactly what we do - except backwards. We keep the wye and the 1 3/4" hose hooked up and disconnect the wye and attach a nozzle if we want to lead out with the 2 1/2" hose or lay a 2 1/2" supply line with the appropriate adapters.
I will get those other pics up tomorrow when I am back at work.
Hose beds/loads - hp1530 - 02-09-2008
LAFD Engine Co
750' 4" and 750' 2 1/2"
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
[quote name='JFong' post='187767' date='Feb 9 2008, 19:35 ']LAFD Engine Co
750' 4" and 750' 2 1/2"[/quote]
JFong,
Could you show the cross lay beds as well?
Hose beds/loads - hp1530 - 02-09-2008
LAFD Crosslay 1.5", 1" and 1.75" hose with 1.5 nozzle
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
[quote name='JFong' post='187774' date='Feb 9 2008, 20:10 ']LAFD Crosslay 1.5", 1" and 1.75" hose with 1.5 nozzle[/quote]
JFong,
Thanks. Do you know the amounts and if the 1 1/2" is forestry hose?
Hose beds/loads - hp1530 - 02-09-2008
[quote name='WAGONMAN' post='187776' date='Feb 9 2008, 17:25 ']JFong,
Thanks. Do you know the amounts and if the 1 1/2" is forestry hose?[/quote]
They carry 400' of the 1.5 and 1.75. Some rigs carry 500 or 600' of the 1" hose depending on their district.
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
[quote name='JFong' post='187778' date='Feb 9 2008, 20:37 ']They carry 400' of the 1.5 and 1.75. Some rigs carry 500 or 600' of the 1" hose depending on their district.[/quote]
Thanks
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-09-2008
[quote name='JFong' post='187778' date='Feb 9 2008, 20:37 ']They carry 400' of the 1.5 and 1.75. Some rigs carry 500 or 600' of the 1" hose depending on their district.[/quote]
Double, sorry
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-10-2008
A couple of close ups, as promised:
Front bumper - Short section of 5" supply hose used for front intake. As far as I know, this is the only section in the city used like this. The rest of the companies run with 6" soft suction supply hose. Also has 100' of 1 3/4" hose. Use this as an example of how to NOT set your bumper up. Definately go with seperate trays.
![[Image: E34001.jpg]](http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/memphise34a/firepics/E34001.jpg)
(3) 50' shoulder loads used for standpipe connections.
![[Image: E34003.jpg]](http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/memphise34a/firepics/E34003.jpg)
5" in the right bed, just out of the frame. Center bed - Close up of 750' of 2 1/2" wyes into (2) 150' sections of 1 3/4" hose in the left bed. The first 50' of both lines and the nozzles are budled into a single shoulder load.
![[Image: E34004.jpg]](http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/memphise34a/firepics/E34004.jpg)
From the top - side to side.
![[Image: E34005.jpg]](http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/memphise34a/firepics/E34005.jpg)
From the top - front to back.
![[Image: E34006.jpg]](http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i63/memphise34a/firepics/E34006.jpg)
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-11-2008
Great shots, Loot, now that I see exactly how it is loaded out, it would appear that you can make a real quick stretch, thanks.
Hose beds/loads - Guest - 02-11-2008
John,
Thanks for the explanation!
Lt. Kramer,
Those pictures are great, really helps in explaining the procedure!
Hose beds/loads - York FF/Chauffeur - 02-11-2008
Not the best picture but with a high of 24 degrees today (without the wind) I wasn't going to pull the truck out of the station.
York, ME Engine 4 from L to R 300' 1 3/4" pre con. under that is another 300' of 1 3/4" dead load. Next is 1000' of 4" connected to another 1000' of 5" with a HAV mounted to the step. Next is 300' of 2 1/2" pre con. with another 200' dead load under that. Why so much hose you may ask? This is our 2nd out pump and her primary job is water supply the 1000' of 5" goes first and if needed we have the extra 1000' of 4" ready to continue the lay.
Hose beds/loads - FTLAUD - 02-11-2008
Fort Lauderdale's setup is fairly simple. Flat load bed of 1000' of 5" supply line, with 800' of 2-1/2" flat loaded with the male out with a water thief on the end. This is the setup for the 5 new engines delivered in 2005 to E2, E16, E46, E47 and E88. All other engines have an identical setup except with 1500' of supply line, and 3" hose instead of 2-1/2". The setup with the water thief is useful mainly for garden apartment setups and docks, but can be used for any other long hose stretch. The line is stretched off the rear and used in conjuction with the high-rise packs for fire attack. The water thief allows the versatility to use either 2-1/2" or 1-3/4" attack lines off the end of the leader line stretch.
The crosslays on all engines are identical with two beds of 200' of 1-3/4" and one bed of 200' of 2-1/2". Usually one of the two 1-3/4" lines has a 7/8" smoothbore, and the other has a breakaway nozzle setup with a 150 gpm @ 50 psi fog nozzle on top of 15/16" smoothbore. The 2-1/2" preconnect has a 1-1/8" smooth bore nozzle.
The loads are identical in that the first 100' is flat loaded, then the four loops are formed across the width of the crosslay bed, and then the remaining hose is loaded on top of the loops. Last step is to fold the loops back into the crosslay bed for organization and so they don't get caught and/or fall out on anything.