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Mack Fire Apparatus - Guest - 03-18-2012
Ed, on the delivery pic is that a small ladder on the hardsleeve?
Mack Fire Apparatus - Guest - 03-18-2012
Okay, I know alot about the CF's, but whats the difference between a C85 and a C95 Mack?
Mack Fire Apparatus - e290l103 - 03-18-2012
pump size.there were 6 types of C Models
C21- 1250 GPM Pump 5 Built
C505- 500 GPM Pump 2 Built
C75- 750 GPM Pump 6 Built
C85- 750 GPM Pump 308 Built
C95- 1000 GPM Pump 605 Built
C125-1250 GPM Pump 129 Built
Mack Fire Apparatus - Guest - 03-18-2012
[quote name='FDNYTRUCKS.com' timestamp='1332087772' post='477878']
pump size.there were 6 types of C Models
C21- 1250 GPM Pump 5 Built
C505- 500 GPM Pump 2 Built
C75- 750 GPM Pump 6 Built
C85- 750 GPM Pump 308 Built
C95- 1000 GPM Pump 605 Built
C125-1250 GPM Pump 129 Built
[/quote]1055 Mack C models were built between 1958 and 1968? That seems kinda low for a 10 year period.
Dan
Mack Fire Apparatus - e290l103 - 03-18-2012
there were 1055 C Model Fire Apparatus built.
Mack Fire Apparatus - Guest - 03-18-2012
Thanks Mike always a wealth of knowledge. I always figured c85 meant a gas engine and c95 meant a diesel engine...
Mack Fire Apparatus - OPEN CAB MACK - 03-18-2012
[quote name='T Niss' timestamp='1332079614' post='477867']
Ed, on the delivery pic is that a small ladder on the hardsleeve?
[/quote]
Yes, one of the members at No. 3 at the time worked for Alcoa at the Technical Center. He hade that as a small inside ladder. Before the collapsable ladders. It served on the 49 L-Model and was transferred to the CF.
Mack Fire Apparatus - Truckman - 03-18-2012
[quote name='navyfire72' timestamp='1332102617' post='477944']
Thanks Mike always a wealth of knowledge. I always figured c85 meant a gas engine and c95 meant a diesel engine...
[/quote]
I believe that the Chrome Bull Dog meant Gasoline Engine and the Gold Colored Bull Dog meant Diesel Engine.
Mack Fire Apparatus - OPEN CAB MACK - 03-19-2012
[quote name='Truckman' timestamp='1332125721' post='477983']
I believe that the Chrome Bull Dog meant Gasoline Engine and the Gold Colored Bull Dog meant Diesel Engine.
[/quote]
Gold meant Mack engine, chrome meant competitor engine
Mack Fire Apparatus - Truckman - 03-19-2012
[quote name='OPEN CAB MACK' timestamp='1332162219' post='477988']
Gold meant Mack engine, chrome meant competitor engine
[/quote]
Thanks Ed for that.
Mack Fire Apparatus - Guest - 03-19-2012
From the Wikipedia site:
"A Mack truck with a gold-plated bulldog indicates that the entire truck is made of Mack components. Trucks with another manufacturer's transmission, engine, rear axles or suspension are given the chrome-plated bulldog."
Mack Fire Apparatus - msm618 - 03-19-2012
[quote name='OPEN CAB MACK' timestamp='1332162219' post='477988']
Gold meant Mack engine, chrome meant competitor engine
[/quote]
What year did they change to that? I recall several C's here on the North Shore delivered with EN707F's and chrome dogs (Saugus, Lynn, Marblehead).
Ed, maybe you remember one of Malden's C-125's, END673T diesel with the chrome pup. Believe chief Romano bought it at auction.
Also, to further confuse myself, I believe I read on FP a few years back, that a Gold pup meant a complete Mack drivetrain, including rear axle.
Any help on unfogging my mind is greatly appreciated!
Mack Fire Apparatus - msm618 - 03-19-2012
[quote name='Mike Mynahan' timestamp='1332166748' post='478001']
What year did they change to that? I recall several C's here on the North Shore delivered with EN707F's and chrome dogs (Saugus, Lynn, Marblehead).
Ed, maybe you remember one of Malden's C-125's, END673T diesel with the chrome pup. Believe chief Romano bought it at auction.
Also, to further confuse myself, I believe I read on FP a few years back, that a Gold pup meant a complete Mack drivetrain, including rear axle.
Any help on unfogging my mind is greatly appreciated!
[/quote]
The Mack C is my favorite rig, and in all my travels, I never saw a Gold dog C. CF's, yes.
Mack Fire Apparatus - B95MACKFIRE - 03-19-2012
My mack is all Mack and has a chrome dog 1957 B-95 707 gas
Mack Fire Apparatus - chfc14 - 03-19-2012
[quote name='B95MACKFIRE' timestamp='1332168966' post='478026']
My mack is all Mack and has a chrome dog 1957 B-95 707 gas
[/quote]OK, I'll add my 2 cents to the confusion. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/shrug.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I always understood that the gold pup indicated that the engine/trans were the Mack Maxidine/ Maxitorque combination. These were introduced near the time the CF's came out, maybe that helps. TJ <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />
Mack Fire Apparatus - Guest - 03-19-2012
Always Chrome Dogs around Central Florida on the CF's. They Don't build a Firetruck that tuff anymore.
Mack Fire Apparatus - CCusson15 - 03-19-2012
This thread is great! Is there a place where I can search the list of all Mack CFs built? I am looking for info on the two Marlborough, MA had. One was a MMA (1972?), the other a pumper (1972). I'd love to find out what happened to either of these, last I saw of them they were sitting on route 1 in Foxboro, MA at a scrap yard / dealer.
Thanks in advance for any info!!
Mack Fire Apparatus - e290l103 - 03-19-2012
there is no such list. its all a work in progress. I will look tomorrow for the two rigs you are asking about
Mack Fire Apparatus - B95MACKFIRE - 03-19-2012
[quote name='chfc14' timestamp='1332170964' post='478046']
OK, I'll add my 2 cents to the confusion. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/shrug.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' /> I always understood that the gold pup indicated that the engine/trans were the Mack Maxidine/ Maxitorque combination. These were introduced near the time the CF's came out, maybe that helps. TJ <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />[/quote] Thats true on my 1968 R685T I have that combo
Mack Fire Apparatus - smketrfdny - 03-19-2012
Anyone close to Zacupa, Mexico? A You Tube video shows them receiving a newer rig and shows the Ford tanker, no Mack R.
Wonder if is off the road or sold????
Stay safe, Brothers.