Quote:i need some help with this rig, did it ever see service with the rfd, and if it did what company used it cause i dnt remember ever seeing this rig.

Quote:I'm not 100% sure, but I believe this was the one that went to the Gates Fire District.  My Pirsch list shows a 1984 delivery of a Model CAN8 100' rearmount.  The last Rochester rig on the list is the 1972 TDA.

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Here's a shot of the Gates Pirsch from my collection. Pump on only one side?  Different warning lights on the front. Same truck?

 

Unknown photographer. 

Quote:You're right.  I'm not taking shots against who's calling the shots or who's in charge, but I am still a believer in the Quint/Midi concept that Lennie Huether developed. 

 

Granted, Sam Mitrano was appointed Chief last year and the first thing the new mayor did this year was let him go.  One of the biggest problems I saw occurred when our now Lt Governor was Mayor.  I'm a firm believer that the Quint Midi concept was Huether's way of keeping firehouses open.

 

As for the advantages of Quints versus TDA's, I can honestly say that I don't know the advantages and disadvantages and never will based on the fact that I come from a rural department.  As for the Midi's versus Engines??  We don't use Midi's, but when I was a line officer, I was responsible of ordering a new Mini pumper with a large pump on it, so I can see the value of Midi's in an urban setting.

 

The bottom line is we all come from different areas, and we all have different jobs.  In Philadelphia it's all about the TDA's.  When you go into the Adirondack area of NY you have departments that operate with mini pumpers and tankers, while the rest of us work with anything and everything in between.  The bottom line is that we all have to work within the personnel, facilities and budgets that we have to work with. 

 

Sometimes we can't comprehend what the resources and needs for their communities are.  Other times you have a Chief who may be a total idiot, another Chief comes in and has to clean up a mess and get things on the right track.  In other cases you might have a good chief get replaced due to politics and replaced by someone who tried to re-invent the wheel and try to fix something that isn't broken.

 

As for Rochester's Quint/Midi concept, time will tell and the numbers will speak for themselves.  The only problem is if the change was wrong, it's going to cost a lot of time and money to fix it.

 

I think the one problem we all have is that it has taken many years to reap the benefits of fire codes and fire prevention to do what they were intended to do.  The problem now is that after all of those years, our local government leadership has become complacent and decided to make cuts in the fire service.  The problem is once these cuts occur, it's going to come at a high price, and it's going to take a long time to correct it.