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Joppa-Magnolia VFD - chief60 - 09-27-2013
Anybody now the story behind this one being for sale?
www.firetruckmall.com/AvailableTrucks/TruckDetails.aspx?Truck=04481-2010-Pierce-Arrow-105'-Aerial&Id=1077
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - drfeelgood - 09-27-2013
Just talking to Roto Ray about it after I saw it on Brindlee's site
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - Roto-Ray - 09-27-2013
I was told some of the BCFD influence on this rig included a lack of pre-piped waterway.
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - Fire28 - 09-28-2013
Quote:I was told some of the BCFD influence on this rig included a lack of pre-piped waterway.Their was a big stink about the Lack of a Waterway and that being a county standard,,,,,,, Seems like they're letting it go awful cheap however.....
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - Bryce - 09-29-2013
Not to pick on this department, but I'll pick on this department. Does anybody ever lose their job when things like this happen? I'm not talking about a situation where a piece of equipment is a lemon and you get rid of it relatively quickly - that's defensible.
But this post and the one about Mount Horeb really got me thinking about how accountable (or not) these agencies are. Who takes the fall for wasting a bunch of $ on a rig that is dumped shortly after it was purchased?
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - chief60 - 09-29-2013
Both of those are volunteer departments, so I don't know how much control the governments have over them. As far as the price, 750,000 is actually a bit high for the truck because of the lack of water way, pump and tank. That is about 65,000-70,000 off a new unit to start with.
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - drfeelgood - 09-30-2013
Chief speaks the truth. No pump, no tank, and no waterway this truck is way over priced and will sit on Brindlee's site for awhile. I don't see why they don't get a waterway installed because when I looked into it on a used rig it was 10-12k to get done.
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - Guest - 09-30-2013
If you look at the specs' is states that it is a 3-foot out rigger spread fromm each side of the truck. That leads me to beleive that this is a medium duty aerial ladder (assuming 500# tip load max). So that is probably why they have a ladder pipe set up and not full waterway. Also too it has a hydrolic reel set up so I'm assuming they carried resuce tools on it as well.
Also too quite honestly, having a pre-piped waterway may not be the answer if 90% of your aerial useage is the ladder itself to gian access to roofs over a long distance or height. I don't know anything about the company that operated it nor the area so I can only assume. And quite honestly if you are going to need an elevated master stream at a prolonged incident, there is nothing wrong with the ladder pipe set up instead of pre-piped waterway. Obviously theire is advantages and disadvantages to both.
As for pumps on a truck, I'm a traditionalist, a ladder truck should be a ladder truck.
But the price for the engine hours and miles on it does seem high for the rig.
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - KENTucky - 10-15-2013
Quote:Not to pick on this department, but I'll pick on this department. Does anybody ever lose their job when things like this happen? I'm not talking about a situation where a piece of equipment is a lemon and you get rid of it relatively quickly - that's defensible.Agreed. Working...and photographing...in an area that keeps trucks for 20+ years (well maintained, I might add) and we can't replace those right now...this stuff actually aggravates me.
But this post and the one about Mount Horeb really got me thinking about how accountable (or not) these agencies are. Who takes the fall for wasting a bunch of $ on a rig that is dumped shortly after it was purchased?
Kent Parrish
Louisville, KY
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - nolderpkp - 10-29-2013
Caught the tail end of a conversation at class this past weekend about the truck having multiple issues that Pierce refused to fix and they were potentially going to seek legal action. Then heard rumors of a TDA possibly in their future (I personally doubt it but whatever). In other Joppa news their reserve truck (can't remember the specs but it was on loan to a company in Delaware) was traded to a scrapper in place of the Mack CF squirt from Willingboro, NJ.
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - 1958 F.W.D. - 11-01-2013
Quote:Caught the tail end of a conversation at class this past weekend about the truck having multiple issues that Pierce refused to fix and they were potentially going to seek legal action. Then heard rumors of a TDA possibly in their future (I personally doubt it but whatever). In other Joppa news their reserve truck (can't remember the specs but it was on loan to a company in Delaware) was traded to a scrapper in place of the Mack CF squirt from Willingboro, NJ.
I used to work at Aberdeen Proving Ground Fire Dept- and ran automatic mutual aid with them 24/7 on many of their boxes on the initial dispatch as well as a bunch of others if a confirmed fire. They have hard enough time getting one driver during the day let alone two.
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - willman940 - 11-23-2013
Wasn't there reserve truck a pretty nice Pierce?
Joppa-Magnolia VFD - nolderpkp - 12-08-2013
No, either and a spartan or duplex LTI and it was older