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rescues with pump capability - BFD190 - 08-15-2014
Hello all . Interested to see photos of rescues with pump capabilities. There was the hybrid like move that created what is commonly referred to as rescue pumpers. But as time has moved on these rigs don't seem to have the necessary storage that even a single tandem rescue could provide. But many depts. Including my own need that piece to be able to pump due to they're first districts fire load. I feel that this may be something we will see more of . Not to much out there . Any help would be appreciated . Thanks.
rescues with pump capability - Roto-Ray - 08-15-2014
Here are a handful that come to mind right away...
Mechanicsville, MD (Pierce Arrow XT tandem axle) - 250/250 ... plus the smallest pump panel you'll ever see.
Hughesville, MD (Spartan/CustomFire tandem axle) - 300/200
Hollywood, MD (Peterbilt/Saulsbury single axle) - 250/200
Bellmawr, NJ (Seagrave tandem axle) - 750/475/20F
Atlantic VFD, VA (Pierce Saber single axle) - 250/200/10F
Henrico County, VA (Pierce Quantum single axle) - 500/300
rescues with pump capability - Dickey - 08-16-2014
Our squad has a 300gpm pump with a 175 gallon tank. Biggest waste of money we ever spent. The pump and tank take up space that our cascade system should have been. The idea was to have a protection line while doing extrication. In 2008 when we were designing this truck the assistant chief at the time insisted on having a pump on it.
We keep two 1 1/2" lines, one on each side, and a 100ft 1 1/2" bumper line. We have used the pump less than 10 times ever and only once on a real call. Barely enough water to charge the line and put out a dumpster fire.
Again, biggest waste of space and money ever concieved. I'll have to get pictures of it up soon.
rescues with pump capability - hank - 08-16-2014
Good photos,
tHANKs
rescues with pump capability - Roto-Ray - 08-16-2014
Jason brings up a great point that departments must consider before they spend the time and compartment space on putting a pump & tank on a rescue truck. For some, it's greatly advantageous, while others have to live with their regrets for putting it on.
At work (link provided above), we run a 500/300 setup on our 2004 Quantums HR's. Although they have fought a couple of fires with them (room and contents, car fire, etc), they're rarely used. In fact, I believe that the pump on S13 has been OOS for a year or more. We're so saturated with engine companies, the pump & tank on the HR's just isn't a benefit.
On the flip side, I fought heavily to put a pump and tank on our new HR at the VFD in 1999, and was shot down every time I brought it up. Fast forward to 2014 as we begin the spec process for it's replacement, and the very people who shot me down on the idea 15 years ago now agree that it was a mistake not to put it on there. We'll likely do a 300/300 setup with a compact pump panel, 2.5" inlet and a single 1.75" discharge. It will also have the same style air cascade we have now, with a 4-bottle, 6000psi system and dual fill station.
It comes down to space, size, cost, staffing, responsibilities, planning, and a host of other factors.
rescues with pump capability - tk1sq - 08-16-2014
Smithfield va. 2011 Seagrave tandem walk around. 500gpm/300gal
rescues with pump capability - Dickey - 08-17-2014
I agree Taylor..it totally depends on what works for you, of course.
We have an engine following the squad 99% of the time anyway so for us...it doesn't work well to use the pump on the squad. The officers that were insisting on it (except that assistant chief who retired 5 years ago) now believe it was a mistake.
rescues with pump capability - Will - 08-17-2014
Don't forget Mt. Horeb, WI Rescue 1
http://fdmh.org/apparatus
rescues with pump capability - BFD190 - 08-18-2014
Thought I read Mt. Horeb sold the rescue somewhere.. maybe it was just a siren off of it..
rescues with pump capability - Will - 08-19-2014
Quote:Thought I read Mt. Horeb sold the rescue somewhere.. maybe it was just a siren off of it..It's listed for sale still.
http://www.firetruckmall.com/AvailableTrucks/TruckDetails.aspx?Truck=04352-2006-Custom-Fire--Spartan-Custom-Rescue-Pumper&Id=940