Crown Firecoaches

[marco17]

Okay, I was off by a couple... oh well.

[Guest]

[quote name='firebuff55407' date='05 January 2010 - 11:47 PM' timestamp='1262752044' post='356720']

San Francisco had three of these 1974 Ford C/Crown/Pierce 54' Squrts. The were originally assigned as Attack-Hose units at Stations 1, 5 and 7. I've never seen any Crown serial #'s for these, but they are Pierce #'s 8099-C1 thru -C3.

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thats always been wierd to me that SFFD, unlike most other FD's in CA never had a Crown Ladder or Engine. Of Course they were more known for there bif Alf fleet . Not to mention there guys always look like they belong back east with there Cairns New Yorker Helmets they wear. That's what I wear and it suits me fine. Although I wouldn't mind trying out a Phoenix CA spec helmet.



L8R Andy <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/machinegun.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Rene112]

[quote name='marco17' date='11 July 2010 - 05:53 PM' timestamp='1278862402' post='392137']F-1826

Santa Monica, CA

Donated to Mazatlan, Mexico in 1995

Credit to Original Photographer



This is the 3rd for three built. My apologies for the poor quality photo. This photo was sent to me about a year ago, and there are not many/any good photos out there of this truck.[/quote]



Maybe you'll like this photo, all the way from Holland!



In august 1993 I visited the Santa Monica Fire Department and took this photo. It was my first visit to the USA and I have many nice memories from it ;-)    



René de Caluwé

The Netherlands

[Rene112]

I'll ad the other Crown apparatus that I photographed during my Santa Monica visit in 1993.



To start here's Engine 4.

In those days I didn't write down many specifications while taking photo's. Maybe other members can ad them?



René de Caluwé

The Netherlands

   

[Rene112]

And if my notes are correct, this Crown was a former Engine that was rebuild into a foam unit to run at Fire Station 5 near the Santa Monica Airport. I believe back in 1993 it was already a reserve unit (a second hand Crash Truck from Palm Springs was in use for aircraft emergencies).    



René de Caluwé

The Netherlands

[Rene112]

And a photo from the back of Crash-5.



(looking back I wish I did put more effort into trying to get better posed photos.....)

   

René de Caluwé

The Netherlands

[Rene112]

And finally, if I remember well this Santa Monica Engine 5 is also a Crown. I believe it was one of the last build.



I know Juergen Kiefer gave more information about this unit in an older thread at this site.



René de Caluwé

The Netherlands

   

[marco17]

[quote name='Rene112' date='30 August 2010 - 05:00 PM' timestamp='1283200828' post='400067']

And finally, if I remember well this Santa Monica Engine 5 is also a Crown. I believe it was one of the last build.



I know Juergen Kiefer gave more information about this unit in an older thread at this site.



René de Caluwé

The Netherlands



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Rene, thanks for adding these to the thread. The Santa Monica rigs haven't been included much in the thread in the past, and the photo of the telesqurt is a gem since there aren't many photos of it out there, especially now that it is in Mexico. Yes, the wide body pumper is that last Crown..technically a Van Pelt...produced. Needless to say, the SMFD guys pulled all the Van Pelt badging and replaced it with Crown badging. The truck now resides in Louisiana.

[downtown]

View Postfirebuff55407, on 05 January 2010 - 11:47 PM, said:

San Francisco had three of these 1974 Ford C/Crown/Pierce 54' Squrts. The were originally assigned as Attack-Hose units at Stations 1, 5 and 7. I've never seen any Crown serial #'s for these, but they are Pierce #'s 8099-C1 thru -C3.



Were down to just 2 of the Attack Hose Tenders. Last time I seen one used was during a 4th alarm fire I was on last August. A very under used rig in our City.

Rico

[Guest]

This may have been asked before. I know some of the LA City and County rigshad Hall-Scott motors. What diesel engines were they running? Thanks in advance.

[Guest]

Thanks for the great answer to my question. That is simply amazing that a gas motor lasted that long.

[GA_Dave]

I'm not sure when the last Crown was built with a gas motor but I know they were still used into the 70s when specified by a department.

According to the Crown book I have, the last gas-powered Crown Firecoach (F-1627) went to Live Oak, CA in 1970, powered by a Waukesha 817G. The last Hall-Scott powered Firecoach pumpers were a trio of 4x4's that went to Kauai County, Hi. in 1969 (F-1595, F-1596, & F-1597).

[marco17]

[quote name='GA_Dave' date='07 December 2010 - 02:44 PM' timestamp='1291749885' post='414058']

According to the Crown book I have, the last gas-powered Crown Firecoach (F-1627) went to Live Oak, CA in 1970, powered by a Waukesha 817G. The last Hall-Scott powered Firecoach pumpers were a trio of 4x4's that went to Kauai County, Hi. in 1969 (F-1595, F-1596, & F-1597).

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If it was F1627, it was built with a Waukesha, but repowered with a Detroit 6V92. And, that I can say for certain... because it's my truck <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/fireman.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[marco17]

Not a great shot from the LACoFD Museum, but trying to bump the thread.



F1400, aka E-60 & the first E-51 of Emergency fame



E-36, Carson, don't recall the F#



   

[marco17]

F1400, E-51 with door markings prior to some refurb work on the paint.



   

[Guest]

LAFD Wagon 17 nicknamed "Big Bertha".



Went to the LAFD museum this last Saturday, for the first time. Not the best shot of the rig, due to it was in the rear of the apparatus floor. 2000 gpm pump & 400 gal tank on this beauty. Crown # F-1338.



I really encourage you to visit this place. Tons of displays both on the apparatus floor & upstairs!! Open only on Saturdays from 10-2. So, plan accordingly.

[Guest]

Picture of the Deck Gun. To give you an idea how massive this rig is, I'm 6'4" & the camera was just over my head. Lol

[marco17]

F-1711, 1974 Crown Pumper

Ex-Santa Cruz, CA

Photo Credit: Ebay Listing/Interschola

[ffemtwakeman]

I too tried to get a decent shot of Big Bertha back in 2008, but there was a lot going on outside (Code 3 for a Cure ceremony). Like Casey said, it is HUGH & a visit to the museum is a MUST! Wish I could have made it upstairs.

   

[jlg1875]

[quote name='Crown' timestamp='1291616952' post='413907']

The study of details, everything Crown...

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I didn't look back to see if there were any other photos of this specific unit, can anyone tell me where it's from? I've never seen a black over red Crown, would love to see what the whole rig looks like!