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Baltimore County MD
New E57 is back with a tandem rear axle and some compartment modifications.


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Good job Jeff. Looks good. How did you beat slippery to it.
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[quote name='gravenut74' timestamp='1323553906' post='466739']

Good job Jeff. Looks good. How did you beat slippery to it.

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Easy...Jeff doesn't have a wife or kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[quote name='SLIPPERYSAM' timestamp='1310011523' post='447171']

Here is Engine 57 this was the 2nd shot I got of this Rig I am glad I did because the next day it went O/S to get a Third Axel put on it. Can't wait to see it in a few months.

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Can someone post the pics of Eng 57 pre and post rework together to see the diff.
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[quote name='gravenut74' timestamp='1323553906' post='466739']

Good job Jeff. Looks good. How did you beat slippery to it.

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Actually I didn't beat slippery, he shot it yesterday. I just beat him to posting it!
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Nice shot Jeff, see I knew you still had it in ya. lol, I guess I know where im going one day this week.
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Perhaps this has already been explained in an earlier post......if Balto. County wanted a tandem axle vehicle why didn't they spec & purchase one instead of purchasing an apparatus & having it modified.
Randy Dame

Former FF/EMT
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amcare38,



I believe Baltimore County wanted a single axle, but the unit itself was over weight and required the additional axle.
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Long story it was a big whoops when built all is well now let's hope
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Wow that must have been an exspensive oops! More or less a new body and a new chassis? Anyone know what the actual GVW is of this rig now that it is on tandems?
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Actually added a third axle to original body after some modifications were done. Yes a very expensive whoops. It's taller then our tiller trucks. Still a sore subject here hope it works out
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Just announced Rosenbauer will be building new Truck 15. It will be a tiller truck drawing can be seen on DPC Emergency website. It will be a Spartan chassis.
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Have they done a tiller before??
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[quote name='jim kay' timestamp='1323559529' post='466742']



Can someone post the pics of Eng 57 pre and post rework together to see the diff.

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http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/inde...t&p=447171
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Engine 57 did not get a "third axle" installed. The single rear axle was removed and a tandem axle setup was installed. A true "third axle" would be along the lines of a tag axle similar to what many dump trucks and concrete mixers are equipped with.



This page has plenty of detail photos of Engine 57 prior to the recent reconfiguration.

[url="http://www.dpcemergency.com/deliveries/baltimore_county/engine_57.html"]http://www.dpcemerge.../engine_57.html[/url]



With regards to the new order for Truck 15, this will be the first tractor drawn aerial that is branded as a Rosenbauer. Spartan has made many tiller chassis over the years, General Safety (now Rosenbauer MN Division) has built tiller trailers before, and RK Aerials (now Rosenbauer Aerials) is not new to the business of manufacturing an aerial device for a TDA application.



Here is the press release with concept drawings for Truck 15:

[url="http://www.dpcemergency.com/news/baltimore_county_121211.pdf"]http://www.dpcemergency.com/news/baltimore_county_121211.pdf[/url]
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Two in the back one up front isn't that three?
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[quote name='gravenut74' timestamp='1323778715' post='467104']

Two in the back one up front isn't that three?

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The vehicle now has three axles, but it did not have a "third axle" installed. That would imply that the same two axles were on it that were delivered with the vehicle, and they just put another one on it.



Jeff summed it up well...



Jeff Hawkins Wrote:Engine 57 did not get a "third axle" installed. The single rear axle was removed and a tandem axle setup was installed. A true "third axle" would be along the lines of a tag axle similar to what many dump trucks and concrete mixers are equipped with.
Taylor Goodman
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[quote name='PFDEng1' timestamp='1323543833' post='466732']

New E57 is back with a tandem rear axle and some compartment modifications.

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Looks good. Sits kinda high though. I like the seat for the ladder operator.
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[quote name='gravenut74' timestamp='1323778715' post='467104']

Two in the back one up front isn't that three?

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I understand your thinking but it's a little different then you describe.



There is a huge difference between a tandem rear axle and two (2) single rear axles. The tandem axle/suspension is a complete assembly that allows the two axles to work in conjunction with each other.



To simply add an additional axle would not work out so well.



One advantage of the tandem is that the truck now has a shorter wheelbase <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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