From what I heard, the HME/Saulsburys were too big, and had their problems.... Rumor was that the HME cab shouldn't have been built up as large as it was, and heard the rigs ended up having cement weights added to rear axles, which over time took the toll on the springs etc.
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[quote name='R1SmokeEater' timestamp='1339551432' post='488479']
From what I heard, the HME/Saulsburys were too big, and had their problems.... Rumor was that the HME cab shouldn't have been built up as large as it was, and heard the rigs ended up having cement weights added to rear axles, which over time took the toll on the springs etc. [/quote] HME cab was/is very nice looking. I liked it. But when I asked around (any FD;s with a moderate amount of runs) there was problems with the chassis. 
Unfortunately, nice looking doesn't always equate to workability or practicality......I think there are always some departments what "swear" by a certain manufacturer, and then a neighboring department will tell you they wouldn't give a plug nickel for that same manufacturer!! It's all in your department's preference, and then more importantly, the service up-keep of the units !
Remember, it's their Emergency, not yours ! Arrive Alive !
I heard the newest Tower Ladder have a similar problem, and steel weights were welded underneath the rear ends to prevent tipping
It's been awhile since I posted some pics on this site. Can someone tell me how to go about doing this?
[quote name='TulsaPete' timestamp='1339685493' post='488667']
It's been awhile since I posted some pics on this site. Can someone tell me how to go about doing this? [/quote] Good luck! 
[quote name='TulsaPete' timestamp='1339685493' post='488667']
It's been awhile since I posted some pics on this site. Can someone tell me how to go about doing this? [/quote] Pete photobucket has worked for me. Hope that helps.
John Fauble
I am interested in all of the equipment and apparatus used in fire fighting and ems service.
Click on "More Reply Options" in the box below the last posting. This will bring up more options, and the box to attach files. Browse, the click attach this file
Hate to hijack the thread, but I use photobucket as well. Once the pictures are uploaded into the photobucket gallery, I scroll over the photo and copy the link that comes up. I then use the insert button here and paste that link and it works great everytime. Hope this helps. Looking forward to more FDNY photos.
[quote name='R1SmokeEater' timestamp='1339551432' post='488479']
From what I heard, the HME/Saulsburys were too big, and had their problems.... Rumor was that the HME cab shouldn't have been built up as large as it was, and heard the rigs ended up having cement weights added to rear axles, which over time took the toll on the springs etc. [/quote] Thanks R1 - I figured going back to the more traditional style (4 riding in the rear without having that plus the crew seating area) was a good move, and popular with the fellas. They were definitely "eye candy" but (in my humble opinion) too big for most of the boroughs. BTW - R1 SmokeEater: Love the videos!
Not the best shot but here is the new hazmat unit.
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Not the best shot but here is the new hazmat unit. [/quote] DI they replace the second piece as well?
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DI they replace the second piece as well? [/quote] The guys at hazmat were saying that the 2nd piece will get replaced with unit from Ferrara which will be bigger than the current one.
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The guys at hazmat were saying that the 2nd piece will get replaced with unit from Ferrara which will be bigger than the current one. [/quote] NICE!!!!!!!!! that second piece they have now has been around forever from what i've seen on here!!!!! 
I find it interesting that all of the Rescues and the Haz Mat had Red steel wheels in the construction photos and then they ended up with Aluminum wheels. Haz Mat 1 doesn't have the chrome center cap and lug covers like the Rescues do, but hey... who's paying attention? <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
 ' />While we're on the subject of wheels, anyone else notice the Engines, Ladders, 75' Tower Ladders, and TAC have Red steel wheels, and then the Rescues, Haz Mat, and 95' Tower Ladders have aluminum wheels... wonder how that happens? Trav!
Travis- Mill Twp. Fire Dept. Marion, IN.
Two possibilities I can think of...first and most likely is that aluminum wheels have much better heat dissapation than steel wheels so the brakes stay much cooler...on the larger, heavier apparatus I can see that as being a big plus and worth the extra money. Another thought could also be replacing the entire front line fleet of rescues and haz-mat at one time is a major acheivment for Ferrara with lots of publicity...they may have "thrown in" the nice shiny wheels at no charge to make the photo ops better...does not account for the Seagrave 95' towers though. Just two ideas from my head, with no official confirmation or information from anyone at FDNY.
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Or....the crews paid for them from the house fund.
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