Philadelphia, PA

[Bmott70]

Quint 69

1996 Simon-Duplex/LTI 75'

[Bmott70]

Quint 69 Responding

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philadelphi...463485492/

[Guest]

I'm surprised that GMC M25 is still on the road, and even more shocked M23 didn't get replaced.

[PFDEng1]

[quote name='Shindaga' timestamp='1340970493' post='490608']

I'm surprised that GMC M25 is still on the road, and even more shocked M23 didn't get replaced.

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While we're on the subject of medics, what is Medic 50B currently running with?

I thought I read somewhere that M50B, the 2003 Ford/Horton (035363) ex M38 is now Medic 155C.

[Fire28]

I show M155C 2002 Ford/Horton 025254 ex M50B. I show M50B's 03 as being rolled in late march...

[Bmott70]

Medic 50 was using Medic 280, a 2004 Ford/Horton, after the accident back in March. It's possible they still have that.

[PFDEng1]

[quote name='Bmott70' timestamp='1341067009' post='490693']

Medic 50 was using Medic 280, a 2004 Ford/Horton, after the accident back in March. It's possible they still have that.

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Tim & BMott70

Thanks for the info!

[Bmott70]

Medic 17 responding

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philadelphi...479953942/

[Guest]

this is turning into an EMS thread!

[Guest]

<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smash.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Sadly some FD's (PHILLY is one) that does EMS... SO this is NOT off topic... Even though we want to see big RED TRUCKS and FLAMES from the City of Brotherly Love... <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[firepost]

I wonder what the plans are to replace Quint 69's apparatus as the unit is already 16 years old?

As the Quint is a one of kind apparatus in Philadelphia I was wondering if they even plan to replace the apparatus with a new Quint or whether they will just replace it with a Engine and Ladder company (whichwas the way the fire station used to be staffed and equipped)?

[jpw25pfd]

[quote name='firepost' timestamp='1341248549' post='490904']

I wonder what the plans are to replace Quint 69's apparatus as the unit is already 16 years old?

As the Quint is a one of kind apparatus in Philadelphia I was wondering if they even plan to replace the apparatus with a new Quint or whether they will just replace it with a Engine and Ladder company (whichwas the way the fire station used to be staffed and equipped)?

[/quote]

There are no plans to replace the quint yet but you can rest assured when the time comes, it will be replaced with an engine. Minimum staffing for Quint 69 is an officer and five by contract. By going to an engine the city will save on two positions. Also, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Ladder 26 to be reorganized.

[firepost]

I had read parts of the "Berkshire " study of the Philadelphia fire department and it really arouses my suspicions as to the distinct possibility of behind the scenes political manipulation, as at first the study says that 10 new Ladder companies need to be put in service, while eliminating 7 additional Engine companies (down to 48 from 55) and then in a following chapter all of a sudden the so called study is recommending the Philadelphia only maintain 20 Ladder companies ,while because of two recommended fire station re/locations they futher reduce the Engine companies recommendations to 46.

The study also did a poor job of reviewing the Ladder companies because if you look at the Ladder company maps in the study they don't include Tower Ladders 6 and 22 and Snorkels 2 and 28 which happen to run as Ladder companies.

It is also odd that while there aren't enough Ambulances to meet the current demand for EMS service they want to add Ambulances (which is fine) so that some of the Ambulance crews can do "fire duty" and act as a "Flying Squad". The report also starts claiming that ambulances are needed for fire suppression duty. If the fire suppression duty is other then first aid service then the Ambulances are being taken away from their primary function of EMS service. These additional "fire suppression" ambulances are being used as an excuse to eliminate 7 additional Ladder companies as opposed to adding 10 of them that the report initially claims are needed in Philadelphia. So the report seems to end up contradicting itself.

Instead of using Ambulances as "flying squads" when they could be better used for what an Ambulance is intended to be used for, then why don't they just ad more Squad companies whose job is to back up companies on working fires?

[Bmott70]

Ladder 5

2007 American LaFrance

Former Lader 1

[Bmott70]

Engine 37

1991 Seagrave



Engine 37 Responding

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philadelphi...hotostream



Ladder 5 Responding

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philadelphi...otostream/



Squrt 43 Responding

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philadelphi...otostream/

[Bmott70]

Ladder 163

1990 Seagrave

Former Ladder 1



Engine 173

1995 KME

Formerly served as Pipeline 52 and Deluge 14

[Bmott70]

Engine 273

1995 KME

Formerly Engines 71, 906, 57 and 1



Engines 173 and 273 awaiting their next assignments

[Bmott70]

Engine 73, Engine 173 and Engine 273 in house at Engine 73



Engine 73

1996 KME

[Bmott70]

Engine 51

2012 KME

[Bmott70]

Ladder 16 Responding on a box back on Wednesday night.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/philadelphi...hotostream