Massachusetts Fire Apparatus

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New Marlborough Engine 1 (1976-1992) Engine 5 (1992-2001) Ford/Farrar - now on a farm somewhere locally.

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Posted tons of times before, New Marlborough Engine 3 - 1930 Reo/?

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Ex-Richmond, MA - now serving E. Chatham, NY

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[quote name='The Commish' post='56541' date='Dec 5 2006, 16:43 ']Last one for now!

Peabody, Ma

1972 Seagrave open Cab

85' MM

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PA-20529

Ladder-2

Ryan/Commish collection[/quote]Awesome pictures!!

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[quote name='The Commish' post='56534' date='Dec 5 2006, 16:31 ']Ipswich, Ma 1980 American LaFrance 1250/500 Eng-3

Gene Anderson photo[/quote]



Another opportunity to cut and paste another pic to GA Dave's "ALF Spotters Guide" - the following is from that wonderful documentary of American FF apparatus, subsequent posts and commentaries -



"Part 5A - The Spartan II (1981 - 1983)

Welcome to Part Five of the ALF Spotters Guide. This part will cover the last of the production of American LaFrance at Elmira, NY and the beginning of a new ALF at Bluefield, VA. The last new custom fire apparatus chassis built at Elmira was known as the Spartan II. It also has been called the Century Straightline. It came out around 1981 and replaced the Pioneer III and the Pacemaker as the only low-cost model from ALF. In design, it had features of both the Pioneer cab and the Century cab. It was plain and boxy, like the Pioneer, but had the wider cab of the Century. The large, flat windshield was angled to the rear, opposite of the old Pioneer. Attached are two examples of the Spartan II. To the best of my knowledge, they were only available as pumpers and less than twenty-five were built. Very little written information exists about them. The Spartan II was phased out around 1983.



Message 50232 From: "fc1504x4" <fc1504x4@y...> Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 9:21 pm Subject: Re:Wichita Parade Part 4

Eric.....Thanks for the link and info on the Anderson, IN Spartan II's. Those are two more that I hadn't seen before. The quote from the ALF representative is true about the "Spartan", but these are "Spartan II" models, built on a custom chassis, and NOT with a Pioneer cab (See ALF Spotter's Guide). The Spartan II cab was unique to that series. GA Dave



--- In Firepics@y..., _ _ E R I C _ _ <firepics@h...> wrote:

> Well that's 3 Spartans still rolling around that I know of. I myself know where an '84 & '85 are. I went to look at them 2 weeks ago on my drive to look at buying another truck. The ones I saw ran out of Anderson, Indianna and are still listed on their web page (http://www.cityofanderson.com/Fire%20Dep...panies.htm ) although they were pulled from service close to a year ago. The units are heavily rusted. I was told they sat outdoors for a couple of years until ALF was finally able to sell them. They have 8.2L Detroit Diesels (180 HP? - Sheeeesh, even my Maxima has 190 hp!) w/auto trans. I can only imagine how anemic the power plants must have been with full tanks & hose bed.



As explained by Rob Haldeman - Technical Services Coordinator for ALF... "The Spartan units were basically Pioneer cabs mounted on commercial chassis. It was ALF's attempt to provide a more economical unit. Unfortunately it never gained the popularity of the full custom Century model. The small engine certainly didn't help sell these units. Our service facility in Cleveland, NC may be able to provide some information..." _ _ E R I C _ _



Message 50238 From: mack505@m... Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 10:01 pm Subject: Re: [Firepics] Re:Wichita Parade Part 4

There is one more still in service at Engine 3 in Ipswich, MA. I've posted photos of it before.

It's due to be retired any day.--James"



These guides are still around on [url="http://www.scalecentral.org/"]http://www.scalecentral.org/[/url] Goto 'Photography' in the navigation bar.



Phil, Bklyn.

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[quote name='Bklyn Phil' post='60234' date='Dec 21 2006, 10:18 ']Another opportunity to cut and paste another pic to GA Dave's "ALF Spotters Guide" - the following is from that wonderful documentary of American FF apparatus, subsequent posts and commentaries -



"Part 5A - The Spartan II (1981 - 1983)

Welcome to Part Five of the ALF Spotters Guide. This part will cover the last of the production of American LaFrance at Elmira, NY and the beginning of a new ALF at Bluefield, VA. The last new custom fire apparatus chassis built at Elmira was known as the Spartan II. It also has been called the Century Straightline. It came out around 1981 and replaced the Pioneer III and the Pacemaker as the only low-cost model from ALF. In design, it had features of both the Pioneer cab and the Century cab. It was plain and boxy, like the Pioneer, but had the wider cab of the Century. The large, flat windshield was angled to the rear, opposite of the old Pioneer. Attached are two examples of the Spartan II. To the best of my knowledge, they were only available as pumpers and less than twenty-five were built. Very little written information exists about them. The Spartan II was phased out around 1983.



Message 50232 From: "fc1504x4" <fc1504x4@y...> Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 9:21 pm Subject: Re:Wichita Parade Part 4

Eric.....Thanks for the link and info on the Anderson, IN Spartan II's. Those are two more that I hadn't seen before. The quote from the ALF representative is true about the "Spartan", but these are "Spartan II" models, built on a custom chassis, and NOT with a Pioneer cab (See ALF Spotter's Guide). The Spartan II cab was unique to that series. GA Dave



--- In Firepics@y..., _ _ E R I C _ _ <firepics@h...> wrote:

> Well that's 3 Spartans still rolling around that I know of. I myself know where an '84 & '85 are. I went to look at them 2 weeks ago on my drive to look at buying another truck. The ones I saw ran out of Anderson, Indianna and are still listed on their web page (http://www.cityofanderson.com/Fire%20Dep...panies.htm ) although they were pulled from service close to a year ago. The units are heavily rusted. I was told they sat outdoors for a couple of years until ALF was finally able to sell them. They have 8.2L Detroit Diesels (180 HP? - Sheeeesh, even my Maxima has 190 hp!) w/auto trans. I can only imagine how anemic the power plants must have been with full tanks & hose bed.



As explained by Rob Haldeman - Technical Services Coordinator for ALF... "The Spartan units were basically Pioneer cabs mounted on commercial chassis. It was ALF's attempt to provide a more economical unit. Unfortunately it never gained the popularity of the full custom Century model. The small engine certainly didn't help sell these units. Our service facility in Cleveland, NC may be able to provide some information..." _ _ E R I C _ _



Message 50238 From: mack505@m... Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 10:01 pm Subject: Re: [Firepics] Re:Wichita Parade Part 4

There is one more still in service at Engine 3 in Ipswich, MA. I've posted photos of it before.

It's due to be retired any day.--James"



These guides are still around on [url="http://www.scalecentral.org/"]http://www.scalecentral.org/[/url] Goto 'Photography' in the navigation bar.



Phil, Bklyn.[/quote]





IF, I recall correctly this particular Spartan II was a demo, and was bought immediately after, and in response to a major fire that had occured in downtown Ipswich around that time. I think it was the Hill's department store blaze...a little before my time though!

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[quote name='The Commish' post='56536' date='Dec 5 2006, 16:36 ']Ipswich, Ma

1973 American LaFrance/Pacemaker

White Roof!

100'MM

#PM-20-3525

Ryan/Commish collection[/quote]



This particular rig was sold to a Quarry in Peabody around the time the KME was delivered in 1997. I'm not sure if it's still being used by the quarry or not though.

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[quote name='salemjake55' post='59719' date='Dec 19 2006, 16:24 ']Love The Salem Pics. Save the one of the KME (E-1). It should be a collectors item in the near future, when that rig is sent to the JUNK YARD. Nothing but problems since we got it!!![/quote]



I bet the guys at Station 1 are wishing they had the Pierce that was sent to Engine 5. I think you guys on Loring Ave made out with the better deal.

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[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND][ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]Apologies for the bad sizing of the last try - this one should be better.



Beverly Ladder One - 1915 Knox-Martin three-wheeled tractor pulling 1909 O.F. Kress four-wheeled ladder carriage. Beverly Fire Hq in background.

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An outside shot of Somervilles Spe-Ops truck.

A 2004 Chevy box van.

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Somerville Engine 3.

A 2002 Pierce Enforcer 1250/500.

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Somervilles Spare Ladder.

A 1988 Pierce/1976 Maxim.

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New Ashford, Ma

1950 Int'l/Dakota Body

750/500

Ron Bogardus photo

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Massachusetts Firefighter Academy Ladder 1, being used alongside Boston Ladder 1 to hold the flag at yesterday's inauguration ceremony.



Sorry for the people in the shot, the ladders were very popular attraction.

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Hey Ed did you get to meet the heavy hitters at the FXT studio? Im a bit confused why the MFFA would have ladder there.

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[quote name='MiltonBradley' post='65397' date='Jan 7 2007, 00:09 ']Hey Ed did you get to meet the heavy hitters at the FXT studio? Im a bit confused why the MFFA would have ladder there.[/quote]



I, like Governor Romney, wisely decided to avoid all of the festivities.

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[quote name='edburke' post='65402' date='Jan 7 2007, 00:22 ']I, like Governor Romney, wisely decided to avoid all of the festivities. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='<_<' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />[/quote]



"Governor Romney" lol for the last year he was in office mass didnt have a governer nor a Lt. Governer for the matter. Why didnt he go to the festivities in Boston, oh wait Boston isint in NH or Iowa.



-John

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[quote name='MiltonBradley' post='65397' date='Jan 7 2007, 00:09 ']Hey Ed did you get to meet the heavy hitters at the FXT studio? Im a bit confused why the MFFA would have ladder there.[/quote]



No I didn't meet and of the heavy hitters although I saw just about every reporter there.



The MFFA being there was probably just symbolic since it was the governor's inauguration and the MFFA is state run, although dragging it all the way to Boston must have been a pain in the neck for the driver and on the rig...

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Here are a couple of random shots I had taken over the summer or early fall that I hadn't previously posted



Belmont Engine 2, a 2005 E\-One Typhoon 1250/500. Ladder 1 is in the background.



   

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You don't see too many departments around here running 1998 vintage trucks as spares, but here you go...Andover Tower 1 is this 1998 KME 2000/300/95’ Tower which serves as Andover's spare ladder.