Relics

[John Kenealy]

Found this one today, a 1958 IH/Young 750 gpm pumper from Castile (Wyoming County) NY. It carries Young Serial Number 58-21. It's for sale if anyone wants her.

[marco17]

[quote name='CNYFireTrucks' post='149537' date='Sep 18 2007, 19:56 ']Found this one today, a 1958 IH/Young 750 gpm pumper from Castile (Wyoming County) NY. It carries Young Serial Number 58-21. It's for sale if anyone wants her.[/quote]



This truck was recently on eBay. Not sure if it is still listed or not.

[John Kenealy]

[quote name='marco17' post='149564' date='Sep 18 2007, 21:56 ']This truck was recently on eBay. Not sure if it is still listed or not.[/quote]



The listing is over, it did not sell. I saw it and noticed that the "item location" was in my area. I contacted the seller and was given the location & permission to photograph the truck.



I have gotten a few photo opportunities in this fashion from checking Ebay.

[Guest]

[quote name='CNYFireTrucks' post='149625' date='Sep 19 2007, 07:03 ']The listing is over, it did not sell. I saw it and noticed that the "item location" was in my area. I contacted the seller and was given the location & permission to photograph the truck.



I have gotten a few photo opportunities in this fashion from checking Ebay.[/quote]





John, do have any history on this rig. Hastings ( Oswego Co. ) had a similar IH/Young years ago.



tim/csff25

[jphfirejake]

i believe this is probably a New Bedford Mass maxim, ,shows blue municipal fire plate on drivers side riot protection was similar but not Boston's type especially rear step

[John Kenealy]

[quote name='csff25' post='149678' date='Sep 19 2007, 14:45 ']John, do have any history on this rig. Hastings ( Oswego Co. ) had a similar IH/Young years ago.



tim/csff25[/quote]



Tim, This was original to Castile, there was a post to the "Young" thread of the delivery photo of this rig.

[Guest]

Old Mack found in Sussex,NJ. I haven't seen it move in 10 years or so, finally took some pics.

[EMS 12]

Found this rig off the I-80 Exit at Snow Shoe, PA.

[Andrew2340]

[quote name='EMS 12' post='149754' date='Sep 19 2007, 20:51 ']Found this rig off the I-80 Exit at Snow Shoe, PA.

[/quote]



What is that? I can honestly say I've never seen a rig quite like that. Kinda looks like a Pirsch nameplate on the front grille...maybe? Nice pics Pat!

[ur second in]

I think its a Ward Lafrance.

[Guest]

[quote name='Andrew2340' post='149757' date='Sep 19 2007, 19:58 ']What is that? I can honestly say I've never seen a rig quite like that. Kinda looks like a Pirsch nameplate on the front grille...maybe? Nice pics Pat![/quote]

Andrew, it's a Ward LaFrance. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



I don't remember the exact name for that particular model. Fireball...? A friend of mine owned one for a short period of time a couple of years ago.

[e290l103]

The rig in Snow Shoe is owned by the guy that owns the gas station at the bottom of the exit. he owns several others, and when I was there 3 weeks ago, he had an old International VCO sitting by the road.



the Mack L in Sussex is Ex-Edgewater, NJ. it was a very unique rig, sad to see it in its current state...

[jmp883]

What is that? I can honestly say I've never seen a rig quite like that. Kinda looks like a Pirsch nameplate on the front grille...maybe? Nice pics Pat!

After checking through some of my reference books it appears to be a Ward LaFrance Firebrand.

[Guest]

[quote name='jmp883' post='149762' date='Sep 19 2007, 20:13 ']After checking through some of my reference books it appears to be a Ward LaFrance Firebrand.[/quote]

Shoot, I knew it was Fire-something-or-other. Thanks for checking. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[GA_Dave]

Actually, Trina is correct. Ward LaFrance called this the "G" cab, named after the man who designed it, Firepics' own Rich Gergel. It came in two versions, the Firebrand and the Fireball. The Firebrand was powered by a Waukesha or International engine and pumped either 750 or 1000 GPM. The economy model Fireball, like the conventional-cab Fireball Model 44, was powered by a Chrysler Industrial V-8 and pumped either 500 or 750 GPM. The rig in question is a 1960 Fireball with a 500 GPM pump that served the West End FC in Glen Iron, PA.

[Guest]

[quote name='ResQguy' post='149744' date='Sep 19 2007, 20:17 ']Old Mack found in Sussex,NJ. I haven't seen it move in 10 years or so, finally took some pics.[/quote]



I don't think it has moved in over 20 years. I remember first driving past it in the late 80s on the way up to the NJ First Aid Council convention in the Catskills. I always wanted to get a closer look at it and find out where it originally ran. Thanks to FDNYTrucks for the ID. It's a neat rig. It's sad to see it rusting away.

[Guest]

[quote name='GA_Dave' post='149766' date='Sep 19 2007, 20:53 ']Actually, Trina is correct. Ward LaFrance called this the "G" cab, named after the man who designed it, Firepics' own Rich Gergel. It came in two versions, the Firebrand and the Fireball. The Firebrand was powered by a Waukesha or International engine and pumped either 750 or 1000 GPM. The economy model Fireball, like the conventional-cab Fireball Model 44, was powered by a Chrysler Industrial V-8 and pumped either 500 or 750 GPM. The rig in question is a 1960 Fireball with a 500 GPM pump that served the West End FC in Glen Iron, PA.[/quote]

Thanks, Dave. I was hoping I hadn't pulled that name out of nowhere. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/icon_crazy.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[hoss]

[quote name='Roger Wnek' post='148577' date='Sep 15 2007, 08:35 ']That Ex. Milton rig looks like a Young or a Sanford. Is someone selling those rigs or are they just there on the side of Rt. 98?[/quote]

That's RT 9H and I think it is a Sutphen only because that's whose logo is on the pump panel gauges.

[GA_Dave]

That's RT 9H and I think it is a Sutphen only because that's whose logo is on the pump panel gauges.

But that isn't Sutphen bodywork. There is no listing in my Young database that matches this rig. Young and Sanford used the same basic style of bodywork, but I think this is a Sanford. Since Sutphen has a facility in eastern NY, it is likely that the gauges came from there during repairs. The trim around the 2.5" intake is typical Sutphen as well. I checked the Milton, NY FD's website, but their history page is blank.

[mnsand]

I found this old Baltimore County, Maryland tiller sitting on Route 11 just outside of Woodstock, Virginia last week.



ex- Truck 8, Fullerton, Maryland

1977 Mack CF/LTI

100'

ex- Talleyville, Delaware. Baltimore County received in approximately 1992.





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA