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Nice shots! Are they going to keep the old "Delaware" as a spare or sell it?
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Not sure !! What the #ell !! PhillyFireNews needs a boat !! LOL
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[quote name='camdenfirespfn' post='160731' date='Nov 3 2007, 22:39 ']Not sure !! What the #ell !! PhillyFireNews needs a boat !! LOL[/quote]

Lucky for us it doesn't have a ladder on it or it'd wind up in Joel's shop! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Hysterical' />
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[quote name='Crossbronxxpress' post='160585' date='Nov 3 2007, 11:30 ']Nice shots! Are they going to keep the old "Delaware" as a spare or sell it?[/quote]



The "Samual" is Marine 102 now... Iforget what is older but I am sure the Delaware has seen its days. I dont see the Franklin leaving yet.... Does Jack have any inside info>?????
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Do anyone have info on Philly's Fire Boat Deleware?
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[quote name='KFDI3' post='162457' date='Nov 11 2007, 15:02 ']Do anyone have info on Philly's Fire Boat Deleware?[/quote]



The "Delaware" and twin "Franklin" were delivered in 1949. They are 8000 GPM boats, each equipped with four 671-CID General Motors diesel engines (pre-"Detroit Diesel"). They are single-screw vessels. There are four 2000 GPM pumps. The engines can all be "clutched" in any combination, that is, three may be used as propulsion and one for pumping, or vice-versa, or two and two, etc. Each also has a 1000 gallon foam tank on board. Mesaurements/displacements escape my memory at this time, I'll see if I can dig any of them up. If you happen to have a copy of Paul Ditzel's book "FIREBOAT!" he covers them pretty well.



The "Bernard Samuel" was delivered in 1950. Although it differes slightly in measurements, it is essentially identical to the Delaware and Franklin in technical aspects. The Samuel is currently in reserve status as Marine 101.



The Delaware is currently quartered on the Delaware River at the foot of Washington Avenue, at the USCG Marine Safety Station. The Franklin is stationed on the Schuykill (say "School Kill" for you out of towners) River at the Sunoco Refinery, in quarters built for them by Gulf, (back when it was Gulf). I believe the Samuel may be kept here as well. Both are manned around the clock by a Pilot and an Engineer (PFD Firefighters who have attained Marine Pilot/Engineer status) and if the boat is assigned a run, a land company is dispatched to the berth.



Perhaps PFDBUFF has more to lend, or can provide any changes in what I wrote; it's been a while since I have kept up on PFD since moving 60 miles away.
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Can anyone confirm the rumor going around that the new boat can not operate in ice?
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[quote name='1958 F.W.D.' post='162461' date='Nov 11 2007, 10:18 ']The "Delaware" and twin "Franklin" were delivered in 1949. They are 8000 GPM boats, each equipped with four 671-CID General Motors diesel engines (pre-"Detroit Diesel"). They are single-screw vessels. There are four 2000 GPM pumps. The engines can all be "clutched" in any combination, that is, three may be used as propulsion and one for pumping, or vice-versa, or two and two, etc. Each also has a 1000 gallon foam tank on board. Mesaurements/displacements escape my memory at this time, I'll see if I can dig any of them up. If you happen to have a copy of Paul Ditzel's book "FIREBOAT!" he covers them pretty well.



The "Bernard Samuel" was delivered in 1950. Although it differes slightly in measurements, it is essentially identical to the Delaware and Franklin in technical aspects. The Samuel is currently in reserve status as Marine 101.



The Delaware is currently quartered on the Delaware River at the foot of Washington Avenue, at the USCG Marine Safety Station. The Franklin is stationed on the Schuykill (say "School Kill" for you out of towners) River at the Sunoco Refinery, in quarters built for them by Gulf, (back when it was Gulf). I believe the Samuel may be kept here as well. Both are manned around the clock by a Pilot and an Engineer (PFD Firefighters who have attained Marine Pilot/Engineer status) and if the boat is assigned a run, a land company is dispatched to the berth.



Perhaps PFDBUFF has more to lend, or can provide any changes in what I wrote; it's been a while since I have kept up on PFD since moving 60 miles away.[/quote]



The fireboat Bernard Samuel was built in 1948. The Delaware and the Franklin were built in 1950. All three are 6000 gpm. The Delaware and the Franklin carry foam, while the Samuel did not, and was basically the only difference between the three.
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Another difference in the boats was the length. The Bernard Samuel is 73' 10", while the Delaware and Franklin are 79' 4".
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Any word on the tower that is on order; I know that they unfortunately ordered from KME again. Any word on delivery date.
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[quote name='ffdrive' post='159997' date='Oct 31 2007, 20:59 ']anyone know why Philly returned the KME tower a few years back? a PM or here would be appreciated.....thanks[/quote]



....And also- What happened to that returned piece ? I remember seeing pix of it lettered for L-22, then delivery was refused on it. Where'd it end up ?
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It was posted on this site I believe that it was returned due to not meeting specs (which can be as gray as someone wants it to be). That was the basis for cancelling the 2nd one on that order that had not been completed at the time.



Corrections welcome, just trying to remember what I had read.
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[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND][quote name='R1SmokeEater' post='172063' date='Dec 17 2007, 11:39 ']....And also- What happened to that returned piece ? I remember seeing pix of it lettered for L-22, then delivery was refused on it. Where'd it end up ?[/quote]



The KME tower went to Leo Fire Company in RED LION, PA and is operating as TOWER 34.

here are 2 shots of it...Credit to the photographers.

KME WEBSITE and LEO FIRE WEBSITE


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[quote name='Fireman5230' post='172285' date='Dec 18 2007, 09:30 '][ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]



The KME tower went to Leo Fire Company in RED LION, PA and is operating as TOWER 34.

here are 2 shots of it...Credit to the photographers.

KME WEBSITE and LEO FIRE WEBSITE[/quote]



-Thank You !
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<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tower.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Tower' /> [quote name='Magon Master' post='144784' date='Aug 30 2007, 08:22 ']Does anyone have any pictures of the single axle CF Scope Phila had??[/quote]



1978PHILADELPHIA MACK TOWER LADDER 786066


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Thank you!!!
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[quote name='Fireman5230' post='158187' date='Oct 24 2007, 12:29 ']Thanks....



If you have some could you put a shot or two of the older TAC Units that were operated in the Philly Thread? Thanks again for the info![/quote]



THIS PHOTO I PURCHASED, NOT SURE OF THE PHOTOGRAPHER


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[quote name='JMPRECISION' post='174678' date='Dec 28 2007, 16:42 ']THIS PHOTO I PURCHASED, NOT SURE OF THE PHOTOGRAPHER[/quote]

PHILADELPHIA GF-1 1967 IH


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Hey, why did Philadelphia use so many International Chassis?



Here is a photograph of the Philadelphia Navy ship yard FD taken in Dec 12 1918
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A few years later...



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