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STOP me before I MACK AGAIN! 75' of pure MACK LOVE
#1
Well, I know everyone doesn't feel this way, but in my eyes, the 75' single axle Mack/Baker Aerialscope was just the best damn aerial device ever made. You can tell that to people who have never run one, and they look at you and laugh. But to those of us who have worked on these units, there is just nothing better than a 75' Scope. Nobody made a better or more effective fire putting out machine. 40 years later, I don't really think any manufacturer has come out with a more effective machine, and I regret that future generations of firefighters will have no clue about the joy of knocking fire with those babies.



So, I got my checkbook out, again. And this one is worth it, at least to me.



1974 Mack Baker 75' CF-700 Aerialscope. Delivered new to the Greenville Fire District of Westchester County, New York, just north of the City of Yonkers. CF-700 with the big Maxidyne V-8 diesel engine due to the hilly terrain of their first due area and a really neat chrome plated Stang monitor.



In 1987, Greenville sent the unit to Pierce for a total refurb, which included a replacement engine, a 475 HP Detroit Diesel 8V92TA attached to the Allison transmission. They also removed the body, put a new Pierce body with enclosed fender wells, repainted the entire unit, new warning devices and interior. In 1990 Greenville sold the unit to my old company, Northeast Fire Apparatus of Lancaster PA. They replaced it with an E\-One 75' quint. (no comment about the change from a 75' bucket to a straight aerial)



Northeast promptly sold it to the Paxtonia Fire Company of Dauphin County, PA (Harrisburg metro area). At one point Paxtonia had 3 aerials in one station, and this unit served as Tower 34 for about 2 years. Paxtonia had Pennsylvania Fire Apparatus add the half doors on the jumpseat openings. In 1991 Paxtonia ran into severe financial trouble and the unit was repossessed and brought back to my company for resale. At the same time, i became Chief of the Lancaster Township FD and told all my firefighters about the benefits of fighting fire with a 75' Scope. I brought the unit around, my crews fell in love with it, and we bought it from the bank and did some updates to make it fit our needs. We also upgraded the platform controller to the newer style joystick which was horizontal over the older vertical stick. On a long 3 or 4 hour job, that really made a difference in operating the bucket.



We loved that truck and actually sold a 1987 Pierce 75' quint to Bath Maine to make room for the scope. Truck 66 caught tons of fires all over the metro Lancaster area, and on more than one occasion T-66 was backed into an alley or down a driveway where no other aerial device could ever fit. It was a running working machine!



In 1998, it was beginning to show some signs of wear, and after a rebuilt transmission and a bit of hydraulic work, we decided to get quotes from Pierce for another major overhaul. We were going to add a second rear axle for better braking, a new body with a bit more compartment space, new electrical system, and some other upgrades. When we presented the proposal to our township supervisors, they told us to skip the refurb and just buy a brand new unit. Not ones to look a gift horse in the mouth, we ordered a new Spartan/LTI 93' mid-mount tower, which was delivered in the second half of 1998.



Another local fire company heard of our new unit and wanted to get a used scope. The Elizabethtown Fire Department agreed to buy the unit, it went back to Northeast for a new paint job, and to Harrisburg Mack for aerial updates and re-certification. In mid 98, they placed Truck 74 in service until the received a new 95' Seagrave Aerialscope in 2005. The Mack was sold to another local firefighter who used it for parades and other events, and he sold it to me when his time changed and he had no place to store it anymore.



Another one for the collection!



Plans for the unit include some minor rust repair and re-lettering it for Lancaster Township FD.



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#2
Nice lookin' rig, good luck with it!!! I feel the same way you do regarding the single axle 75' Mack Scopes. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wub' />



There are actually some pictures of this rig when it still served Greenville, NY in a book that was written in 1989 by the late Yonkers, NY based photographer Tom Wanstall. In his book "FIRE, At war with the Red Devil", there is a picture of it on page 13, and another on page 17.



Good luck with her!!!!
The only MARC in 46 ENGINE!





NEVER FORGET 9-11-01 F.D.N.Y. 343



RIP FF John Bellew 27 Truck F.D.N.Y. 1-23-05



RIP Captain Frank Keane 46 Engine F.D.N.Y 12-11-06
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#3
Chief

I must say you have out done me. I will not stop you as you are the MACK DUDE! Your by line is going to read alot like mine (1 CF-600 & 1 CF-700). You will LOVE that MACK V-8 (Only 112 CF-700's produced). We will need to meet up and get group shots. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Thumbsup' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yourock.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Yourock' />
Chris O. - DCFD F/F NREMT-B and member of Friendship Fire Association, CAFAA & ODHFS

[color="#ff0000"]Owner 1968 Mack CF Semi-Open Cab CF-600 ex. Cumberland, MD Original E1 Retired E4

Owner 1974 Mack CF CF-700 ex. Willow Grove, PA E10-3; Dillsburg, PA E64[/color]

[size="6"][color="#000000"]REAL FIRE TRUCKS ARE BLACK AND[/color] [color="#ffffff"]WHITE[/color][/size]

[color="#000000"]COLOR DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF YOU ARE COLOR BLIND - JUST THE SHADE[/color]
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#4
[quote name='68mack' post='177624' date='Jan 5 2008, 17:35 ']Chief

I must say you have out done me. Your by line is going to read alot like mine (1 CF-600 & 1 CF-700). You will LOVE that MACK V-8 (Only 112 CF-700's produced). We will need to meet up and get group shots.[/quote]





actually the Mack V-8 was gone in 1987, replaced with a Silver92 series Detroit. So the Bulldog doesn't purr, it hums.
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#5
nuthin better than a mack scope <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Thumbsup' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hail.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Hail' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Wub' /> good luck with it chief
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#6
Such a beautiful rig. Good luck, hope to see it on the circuit.
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#7
Wow, I'm impressed!!! Good choice, a CF/Scope is one of my favorite pieces of apparatus ever. Good luck with it!
Micah Bodford
Fire Investigator
City of Winston-Salem Fire Dept.
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#8
Ah, what I wouldn't give to have one of those! Nice to see it got a good home.
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#9
Congratulations on your new toy! Here's a shot of it that I took many years ago at the last Chocolatetown Parade in Hershey.


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#10
Nice looking rig. I have photos of it whenever it was at Paxtonia, Lancaster Twp, and Elizabethtown. I'm sure its still in as great a shape as when I saw it a few years back.
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#11
[quote name='Shoop' post='180591' date='Jan 16 2008, 17:36 ']Nice looking rig. I have photos of it whenever it was at Paxtonia, Lancaster Twp, and Elizabethtown. I'm sure its still in as great a shape as when I saw it a few years back.[/quote]





well, what you waiting for???????



post post post......
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#12
I'll get them scanned and posted this week.
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#13
Whoa, my two favorites: a Mack CF/Baker and a Detroit 8V92TA??? What a truck!!(Sorry for Mack Diesel lovers) <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Thumbsup' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/luxhello.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Luxhello' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/yourock.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Yourock' />
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Patrick Shoop Sr.

Lewistown, PA.
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Patrick Shoop Sr.

Lewistown, PA.
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#16
[quote name='Chief66' post='177631' date='Jan 5 2008, 17:41 ']actually the Mack V-8 was gone in 1987, replaced with a Silver92 series Detroit. So the Bulldog doesn't purr, it hums.[/quote]





Ba'Humbug! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/bitch.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':rant:' />





LOL just kidding chief. Im sure it is still a very sweet Bulldog...as I'd rather it still have her true V8 under the hood...it's still a M-A-C-K!
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