Hose beds/loads

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Thanks for those, I've been hoping they would show up here. A lot of hard work went into designing that "fire engine." You can actually get a hose without a nose bleed. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

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Thank you.



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To better explain the hosebed design it went like this.



We wanted a hosebed and attack lines that you didn't need to climb up to reach, were easily adaptable for various situations, and didn't tie up the pump panel area. Our specs called for the hosebed floor not to exceed 60" from the ground and be no deeper than 8' from front to tailboard (so when shoulder loaded the hose did not hang more than 4' in front and behind the FF's shoulder). After looking at the drawing again, the bed is 85" deep (front to back), 61" from the ground.



The bumper wells were modeled after Seagrave rugs (ken land and similar). Two main points. One was for the raised angled lip for easy hose deployment, the second was to keep the front approach angle clear, pictured below.

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The hose load concept goes like this. If you pull any attack line, the nest equal size and flow handline can be pulled at or greater then the length of the original. All the rear loads have the top 150' packed as a shoulder load.



Here's an example. We pull the 150 bumper line. We need a second line on the fire floor to back it up, the 150 of 1 3/4" from the rear 250 preconnect can be pulled and broken. need to go to the floor above? Take what you need; preconnected or estimate and stretch what ya need. Need a bigger line? Pull the 2" with the 1 1/8" slug tip it will flow 240 GPM at 400'. Works for the limited crew we have. need more? pull the 2 1/2" with the 1 1/8 and 1 1/4" tips for 250 or 320 GPM. All the rear lines can be easily pulled at 150' or up to 400' because each bed has a total of 400' of hose.



Last attack line is 100' of 2 1/2" to a Mercury Monitor with 1 3/8" tip (500GPM)

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[quote name='WAGONMAN' post='187332' date='Feb 7 2008, 14:53 ']

Charlotte, NC 500gal tank.

Would be interesting to see how they load the 'mail boxes.'

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In response to this photo, I'll show you how we load our hosebeds and give you a little history on how got here. In 1992 we moved all the pre-connect lines to the back of the truck. We found that this worked well but there was a lot of wasted space that could be utilized for hose storage. We lowered the hosebed height with the Smeals and could have two levels of 1-3/4" and 2-1/2" hose. The horizontal dividers are hinged to allow easy access the the bottom portion of the hosebed. The newest engines have the powered diamond plate hosebed covers.



Engine 3 has a 500 galllon tank. These photos are of Engine 21, which has a 750 gallon tank and is 2 years older thatn Engine 3. the hosebed heights are the same - the 750 gallons engines have a little longer wheelbase. This shows a typical hose load. Each company has a slight variation on how the hose is loaded and deployed. Engine 21 has 200' of 1-3/4" pre-connected in the upper outboard beds and 200' of 2-1/2" pre-connected in the upper inboard beds. The lower outboard beds hold our 1-3/4" and 2-1/2" high rise packs. The lower inboard beds hold 250' of dead loaded (not pre-connected) 2-1/2". It is hard to see but you can make it out if you look very closely. The large bed is designed to hold 1200' of 5" but almost all companies carry 1000'. The small compartment holds backboards, hooks, and any other long, thin tools that can fit.



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Does Austin use their engines to pull trailers? I've noticed all their engines have trailer hitches.

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[quote name='ecfr1978' post='218433' date='Jun 2 2008, 09:08 ']Does Austin use their engines to pull trailers? I've noticed all their engines have trailer hitches.[/quote]



Yes they do. I've been trying to shot one. But I've had no luck tho.

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