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Unless there is a history of the company as a whole not taking care of the rigs and equipment (And lets face it all our departments have totally uncaring and useless stations across all shifts) then the company shouldn't be punished.



The Chauffeur should be brought downtown for being a dumba** however.



I don't buy into the depriving the community angle. If the new rig goes to 28''s then another community doesn't get its service. If it goes elsewhere then the community on 28's territory soesn't get its services. So its all a wash in the end.



Just a thought.
Larry Di Camillo

Fire Chief

Stafford Fire Department

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Engineer/Operator

Houston Fire Department

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[quote name='Shoe' post='237154' date='Aug 9 2008, 17:07 ']Why punish the entire company and community for the irresponsible action of one (or two) individual(s)? A decision like that on the part of management would be "Totally unacceptable, careless". Shotgun management decisions like that lead to low morale, no productivity and NO support from the troops.[/quote]



Welcome to PFD!
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Ok, stuff happens. I am sure we have all done dumb things through out our career that we have all wanted to forget about. How about we learn from this, and worry about our own selves and our own companys. I know that if I was that operator I would be pretty P.O. at myself, and I am sure he does not want anyone else making him feel even worse. Get over it and move on.
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[quote name='cml0774' post='237094' date='Aug 9 2008, 13:16 ']Totally unacceptable, careless! And there going to get a new piece. I would find the biggest piece of junk( shouldn't be that hard to find)and let them have it; give the new tower to some other company.[/quote]



Hey brother, how about some respect for the individual hm? What if one of their members was on here and read this? How would YOU feel if an incident occurred with one of your departments apparatus and someone wrote something like that? I'm sure you wouldn't like them now would you? Don't forget there's a lot of members of organizations as well as buffs here.. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/feedtroll.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Feedtroll' />
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ladder 228 running as ladder 15 thanks d platoon


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[quote name='BAIN172' post='110361' date='May 20 2007, 21:33 ']Heres one of the wlf[/quote]



anybody got a pic of squrt 65?
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this one?

Louis Kelter photo from my collection.


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[quote name='FDNYTRUCKS.com' post='238346' date='Aug 14 2008, 12:44 ']this one?

Louis Kelter photo from my collection.[/quote]

Can you please post more older philadelphia apparatus.
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[quote name='FDNYTRUCKS.com' post='238346' date='Aug 14 2008, 12:44 ']this one?

Louis Kelter photo from my collection.[/quote]





thank you!!!!

for some reason i thought they had a 79 american lafrance
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[quote name='reckscoop' post='93427' date='Apr 1 2007, 17:03 ']Old Squrt 72 in its original state...[/quote]



did 43's have the mack and if so was that before or after the '77 american lafrance?
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Does anyone have pictures of engine 10 the 1984 Seagrave
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Doesn't Philly have some vol ems units still in the city and if they do how come
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[quote name='tomquimby' post='238357' date='Aug 14 2008, 13:23 ']thank you!!!!

for some reason i thought they had a 79 american lafrance[/quote]



they did.



Lou Kelter pic.

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[quote name='BAIN172' post='238364' date='Aug 14 2008, 14:13 ']Does anyone have pictures of engine 10 the 1984 Seagrave[/quote]



Lou Kelter pic

from my collection


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Here's 65's with their ride before the ALF, a 1976 Mack CF 1000/500, PFD#765483.



-Photo by Steve Skaar


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[quote name='tomquimby' post='238357' date='Aug 14 2008, 13:23 ']thank you!!!!

for some reason i thought they had a 79 american lafrance[/quote]



43'S HAD THE 71 OSHKOSH/ Pierce THAT WENT TO 38'S. 43'S 79 ALF WENT TO SQ9. 72'S HAD THE 77 MACK. THER WAS THREE Seagrave SQURTS IN THE 80'S. I BELIEVE 8'S HAD THE 1985 MODEL , 43'S HAD THE 86, AND 65'S HAD THE 87 MODEL. 65'S SQURT WENT TO 57'S WHEN THEY WERE DISBANDED IN 88.
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[quote name='firebuff55407' post='238377' date='Aug 14 2008, 15:31 ']Here's 65's with their ride before the ALF, a 1976 Mack CF 1000/500, PFD#765483.



-Photo by Steve Skaar[/quote]



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[quote name='FDNYTRUCKS.com' post='238370' date='Aug 14 2008, 14:38 ']Lou Kelter pic

from my collection[/quote]

Do you also have a shot of engine 59 alf engine
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I will never forget Engine 43, that was the very first Philadelphia fire truck I ever saw. We were on a field trip to the Franklin Institute and I heard a Federal Q. It was the Seagrave Squirt truck from Engine 43... I can still see it screaming through the intersection!!!



Dave
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[quote name='firebuff55407' post='238377' date='Aug 14 2008, 14:31 ']Here's 65's with their ride before the ALF, a 1976 Mack CF 1000/500, PFD#765483.



-Photo by Steve Skaar[/quote]



CORRECTION- That PFD # on Engine 65's Mack CF should read #765473
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