Relics

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[quote name='Andrew2340' post='239768' date='Aug 19 2008, 09:59 ']And here's a relic that I found especially cool! Though, I'll have to post it in two photos, because the tractor & the trailer were seperated. The guy that owns all these trucks also operates the fictional "Landis Hook & Ladder Co." which has several tractor & trailer tankers in the fleet. Should Landis or any of the neighboring FD's need big water on a fire scene, the guy brings one of these massive tankers to their assistance.



Landis Hook & Ladder Co. "Tanker"



1979 Mack R686ST/Freuhauf

0/8500

Mack Cha. # 30194

X: Plumsteadville, PA

X: Atwell Twp, NC



Andrew Messer Photo (2008)



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Man I'd love to go get that Mack tractor and its trailer tanker and refurbish it for my company as we depend on Tankers for water supply. <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_5_19.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

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I caught these two old rides one day as I was in South Boston, VA at Eddie Slagle's



I know that these are old photos which were taken about 1985.



Unknown where they were from - someone may know



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[quote name='Truckman' post='240362' date='Aug 21 2008, 15:34 ']I caught these two old rides one day as I was in South Boston, VA at Eddie Slagle's



I know that these are old photos which were taken about 1985.



Unknown where they were from - someone may know



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Awesome, John. American LaFrance JOX and a Sweetheart Grill Seagrave. I shoulda gone by Slagles once in a while!

[photone]

Ran up on this old rig Wednesday evening in Prince George County...a real live 'War Baby'



Former Coast Guard 43 Ford/American LAfrance booster wagon. 300GPM pump, unknown what the original tank size was...has a tank intalled in, and taking up the entire hose bed. Also has a much newer looking Portsmouth decal on the officers side door.



   



The rig looks like it's fairly complete, including lots of wartime painted trim.

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I caught these two old rides one day as I was in South Boston, VA at Eddie Slagle's



I know that these are old photos which were taken about 1985.



Unknown where they were from - someone may know



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The American LaFrance is ex Gettysburg PA Truck 1, a 1941 Model M-5-100 JO, Serial Number L1332. Purchased from the original owner, Rex Hook and Ladder, York PA in 1964. Retired in 1977. It still sits in a field somewhere in Virginia.

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Officer's side. I DO believe that's a distributor nozzle in the brackets mid-body.

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Pump Panel detail. The guages don't appear to be original to the rig (no where near old enough). The smaller plate, beneath the Pump Capacity p;late reads



Capacity-IN

Pressure-OUT

[photone]

And speaking of the pump data plate...



   



The chart headings read 'SIze of Nozzle in inches' 'GPM Discharged from Nozzle' 'Pressure at Nozzle'. As well as a friction loss chart for 2.5inch line.



I looked for a data plate other than this, but could find none, so I couldn't get a serial number.

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Close up of the lettering remaining on the officer's side door, as well as the Portsmouth city decal. It was apparently in service at the Cutrtis Bay Coast Guard Yard in Baltimore.

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Alot of the older USCG rigs were hand-me-downs from DOD or other US Government FD's. It's possible this rig originally came from the US Army Ordnance Depot, also located in Curtis Bay, or one of the other nearby DOD FD's. Too bad you couldn't find the nomenclature plate in the cab.



Ted, what do you think?

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I recall one of the city fire buffs telling me that the Curtis Bay Coast Guard Yard did in fact have one of these Ford-AmLaFr pumpers during the war. It was also said that another Coast Guard pumper was stationed in the harbor area. Didn't the Brooklyn VFD have one of these Coast Guard pumpers at one time? Many years ago I was allowed to view hundreds of photos that were stored in boxes in the attic of the adminstration building at the yard. The earliest FD pictures I could find were of the International from the 60s.



Ted

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[quote name='photone' post='240480' date='Aug 22 2008, 08:06 ']Officer's side. I DO believe that's a distributor nozzle in the brackets mid-body.[/quote]





Rob,



That is a low velocity applicator (10 ft) that is used with a Navy All Purpose Nozzle. This appliance is used to attack tar buggy's that got out of control and was used by the Navy and Coast Guard for aircraft fires. We carried them, a 4 ft and the 10 ft model for years. We have used them several times. Quicker to turn off the LP and close the hatch to a tar buggy or to operated with a larger 1-1/2" or 1-3/4" line as it used now days.



That plate or chart on 1518 post, I think it was, was standard for apparatus back in that time. I remember them on our older apparatus. Made is easy to learn the pump pressure and flows for hose laid!!

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[quote name='Andrew2340' post='239773' date='Aug 19 2008, 09:05 ']Here's another one of his road tractors that pulls a tractor & trailer tanker.



Landis Hook & Ladder Co. "Tanker"



19?? GMC/Freuhauf

0/8500



Andrew Messer Photo (2008)



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Awe, it's good to see my old buddy Mesner hasn't let me down. He still manages to photograph any truck that might have just happened to pass by a fire at some time or another or that had any color of light on the roof that might blink, rotate, flash or spin! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Awe, Andrew, you know I love ya!



Mark

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Thanks for the additional info about my post guys <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



John I wish I'd thought to get a detail shot of the Applicator as I'm pretty sure the nozzle was still attached. I may have to slip back over there sometime in the next day or so and get a couple of more shots. If I can make it over there while the place is open I'll see if I can do a more thorough search for the nomenclature plate.



The Fire Underwriters plate was an awesome idea. Would have definitely made the much loved friction loss calculations a bit easier! (Remember the 'Hand Formula'? ) Attaching the Fire Underwriters plate had had apparently been discontinued by the mid fifties as Boykins, VA had (And still has) a 56 Ford/Howe that didn't have such a plate.



What amazed me was how complete the rig was. The last time it was actually road worthy was 20+ years ago as the inspection sticker was from '85...where ever it was sitting it was at least protected from thieves and vandals. I just hope whoever purchases it does so to restore it and not to turn it into some kind of street rod/competition rig.



There's a good sized auto salvage yard there as well...I may have to inquire as to what other items may be present!

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[quote name='Ted' post='240520' date='Aug 22 2008, 13:53 ']I recall one of the city fire buffs telling me that the Curtis Bay Coast Guard Yard did in fact have one of these Ford-AmLaFr pumpers during the war. It was also said that another Coast Guard pumper was stationed in the harbor area. Didn't the Brooklyn VFD have one of these Coast Guard pumpers at one time? Many years ago I was allowed to view hundreds of photos that were stored in boxes in the attic of the adminstration building at the yard. The earliest FD pictures I could find were of the International from the 60s.



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Ted I Emailed Curtis Bay CG YArd about the rig and gave them a link to my Flickr account...Be nice if someone could restore her to her former glory.



The rest of the shots I got are [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotowun/"]HERE[/url]

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here's a junk yard relic. It is located in a Junk yard on US Hwy 25 s. in Greenville, SC. it is a 1941 Howe/Chevy. Any Ideas where it came from. They guy I talked to didn't. It does have a Historical Indiana Licence plate on it.

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Heres another sad one. A Ford /American LaFrance, Fmr North Spartanburg Eng 2. Not sure the year. The intersting thing is the logo. Haven't Seen one like this before, any ideas?

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Ex Menands, NY

Mack

A local collector from Troy, NY owns this one