Pittsburgh Bureau of Fire

[Guest]

I have a current apparatus roster on my computer at home. I'll post it later on.

[DaveYoung]

[quote name='firebuff55407' post='270136' date='Dec 31 2008, 23:27 ']Here was Engine 43's 1972 Mack R 1250/500 pumper, one of five delivered, Mack serial #'s R685F12-1051 thru 1055.

- Photo by Steve Skaar[/quote]



Anybody know what the address of Station 43 was/is? Thanks in advance.

[Guest]

Some tidbits from John's book (good luck to those seeking a copy, I'm glad I got 1 from him 10 years ago at the Allentown flea market.)

It appears PBF topped out at 61 stations in 1915, there was 59 engine houses, 1 hose co. (#1), and 1 truck house (#10). The truck cos. were chaged from letter designations to numbers at that time.

The first company elimination was in 1922 and involved 5 engines.

By 1952, there were only 3 2-piece engines in PBF, #12-32-47, last one gone by 1970 (#32), used a 1931 ALF turret/hose wagon.

PBF FF Anthony Lundy was killed in 1984 after falling from a tailboard while the engine was reversing. This eventually led first to safety harnesses, but PBF FFs did not finally get off tailboards until the demise of the 80's Ford/Grummans.

PBF's ALF Aerochiefs were delivered in March, 1971.

[Guest]

[quote name='DaveYoung' post='270286' date='Jan 1 2009, 15:27 ']Anybody know what the address of Station 43 was/is? Thanks in advance.[/quote]

Pg. 124 from Schmidt's book,built in 1877 at Arch and Jacksonia Sts. (lower North side) originally Allegheny City FD #3, annexed 1907 by Pittsburgh and renumbered 43.

Co. moved in 1971 to a new station at 1315 Federal St. Disbanded 1981.

1877 station may still survive, Federal St. station was closed in 1992, and may have been razed.

[Guest]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='269304' date='Dec 29 2008, 17:10 ']Spotted and photographed at a truck dealers lot in Duncansville, PA. about 1995-96, it wasn't there long.[/quote]

Ex PBF Mack R, then Pitcairn #2

Warren Jenkins photo

[DaveYoung]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='270313' date='Jan 1 2009, 16:46 ']Pg. 124 from Schmidt's book,built in 1877 at Arch and Jacksonia Sts. (lower North side) originally Allegheny City FD #3, annexed 1907 by Pittsburgh and renumbered 43.

Co. moved in 1971 to a new station at 1315 Federal St. Disbanded 1981.

1877 station may still survive, Federal St. station was closed in 1992, and may have been razed.[/quote]



Thank you for the address.

[Guest]

[quote name='OPEN CAB MACK' post='269798' date='Dec 31 2008, 06:20 ']Shoop, there was 1 purchased. It was the one you posted. Apparently when the bureau purchased the next round of rigs in 1981, which would have been the big Ford Louisvilles, the on assigned to Engine 1 replaced this LaFrance. It must then of went to 14 Engine. Mgk 110 talks to a retired driver from 14 Engine and he would be able to tell you. I haven't talked to Sparky in a while.

As for the Monesson tiler, I was told they only bought 1 and that it was from 14. They purchased another one from up in Mass. The old Pgh tiller tractor is now used to pull the boat. Monesson keeps their old apparatus, dont ask where but they have quite a few.[/quote]

Here is the other Seagrave TDA from PBF at Monessen FD, a 79 100' that was replaced by the 89 J-model Seagrave.

7/07 photo by Warren Jenkins

[OPEN CAB MACK]

[quote name='MFD 61 KS' post='270249' date='Jan 1 2009, 14:03 ']Two on a Truck? Who tillered the Lt. or where there three on a Truck? How did Truck work happen, was the first alarm assigment beefed up? Thanks for the info. Also can some one list all of the previous assigments and current assigments?



Stay Safe, Rick[/quote]

My fault, it has been so long since the tillers were used. There were 2 on the straight trucks.

[Guest]

This was the Monessen FD HQ "storage yard" in 7/07. This is located in what appears to be an old RR Depot parking lot. MFD also has a warehouse to store the 69 Snorkel in, and there is also another garage that houses antique rigs.

L to R: the 89 Seagrave TDA, EX-?; the 76 Seagrave tractor with the boat tender; a reserve Seagrave engine, storage trailer, and the 79 Seagrave TDA.

Warren Jenkins photo

[Guest]

Another view, only the boat unit was operable this day.

Warren Jenkins photo

[OPEN CAB MACK]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='270323' date='Jan 1 2009, 17:10 ']Another view, only the boat unit was operable this day.

Warren Jenkins photo[/quote]

Nice shots, the 1989 Seagrave tiller was from up in the New England states, maybe Mass. I saw it at the Western Convention at Fairchance. Monesson also had their antique Seagrave truck there as well. They also have a Ward LaFrance that will soon be placed out of service when their new Seagrave engine arrives. The Ward is be kept as well. They can start their own museum with what they have. They may also still have their Mack CF. Not sure though.

[OPEN CAB MACK]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='270323' date='Jan 1 2009, 17:10 ']Another view, only the boat unit was operable this day.

Warren Jenkins photo[/quote]

Looking at my pictures, the tractor pulling the boat is from 14 Truck. It carried Pittsburgh shop # 76054. This truck was in service at 14 Truck in the summer of 1988 as I was attending Duquesne University for two classes to lighten up the load for my senior year. The guys were doing a public service detail in Oakland when I stopped. I always had my camera when I went in the city.

[Guest]

[quote name='OPEN CAB MACK' post='270329' date='Jan 1 2009, 17:25 ']Looking at my pictures, the tractor pulling the boat is from 14 Truck. It carried Pittsburgh shop # 76054. This truck was in service at 14 Truck in the summer of 1988 as I was attending Duquesne University for two classes to lighten up the load for my senior year. The guys were doing a public service detail in Oakland when I stopped. I always had my camera when I went in the city.[/quote]







do we know why monessen keeps all there trucks????? i was just wondering why they would want to keep them all.

[Guest]

I'm not too sure why Monesson keeps all their trucks. I am headed out there in the spring to take pictures of the new truck. I'll be sure and ask. I still think its neat to see that both of the Pittsburgh Seagrave tillers ended up at the same home.

[Guest]

PITTSBURGH BUREAU OF FIRE - LAST UPDATE 01/01/2009



STATION 3 - 1401 PENN AVE.

ENGINE 3 2008 KME 2000/500/25

MAC 1 1989 CHEVROLET/DOERR BROS.

MAC 2 1992 IHC/SABRE



STATION 4 - 1324 FORBES AVE.

ENGINE 4 2002 SPARTAN/ALF 1500/500

TRUCK 4 2006 Seagrave 100'

DECON 2006 GMC/PIERCE



STATION 6 - 3958 PENN AVE.

ENGINE 6 2005 HME/TOYNE 1500/500

TRUCK 6 2008 Pierce 105'



STATION 7 - 4603 STANTON AVE.

ENGINE 7 2007 KME 2000/500/25



STATION 8 - 5714 PENN CIRCLE WEST

ENGINE 8 2005 HME/TOYNE 1500/500

TRUCK 8 1997 HME/FERRARA/RK 109'



STATION 10 - 2500 ALLEQUIPPA ST.

ENGINE 10 2005 HME/TOYNE 1500/500



STATION 12 - 4156 WINTERBURN ST.

ENGINE 12 1993 ALF 1750/500



STATION 13 - 200 FLOWERS AVE.

ENGINE 13 2008 KME 2000/500/25

TRUCK 13 2008 Pierce 105'



STATION 14 - 259 MCKEE PLACE

TRUCK 14 2007 Seagrave 100'



STATION 17 - 7601 HAMILTON AVE.

ENGINE 17 2002 SPARTAN/ALF 1500/500

TRUCK 17 1987 Pierce/SMEAL 105'



STATION 18 - 5858 NORTHUMBERLAND ST.

ENGINE 18 2007 Pierce 2000/470/30/75'



STATION 19 - 159 HOMESTEAD ST.

ENGINE 19 1990 Pierce 1750/500



STATION 20 - 514 BALDWIN ROAD

ENGINE 20 1993 ALF 1750/500



STATION 22 - 1945 ARLINGTON AVE.

ENGINE 22 2002 SPARTAN/ALF 1500/500



STATION 23 - 1704 BROWNSVILLE RD.

ENGINE 23 1992 ALF 1500/500/75'

COMMAND 200 2007 Pierce/LDV



STATION 24 - 1729 MARY ST.

ENGINE 24 2007 KME 2000/500/25

TRUCK 24 1996 HME/FERRARA/RK 109'



STATION 26 - 620 BROOKLINE BLVD.

ENGINE 26 2005 HME/TOYNE 1500/500

TRUCK 26 2008 Pierce 105'



STATION 27 - 96 VIRGINIA AVE.

ENGINE 27 2008 Pierce 2000/470/30/75'



STATION 28 - 1428 BEECHVIEW AVE.

ENGINE 28 2001 SPARTAN/ALF 1500/500



STATION 29 - 2100 NOBLESTOWN RD.

ENGINE 29 2001 SPARTAN/ALF 1500/500



STATION 30 - 916 STEUBEN ST.

ENGINE 30 2001 SPARTAN/ALF 1500/500

TRUCK 30 1996 HME/FERRARA/RK 109'



STATION 31 - 3000 CHARTIERS AVE.

ENGINE 31 1990 Pierce 1750/500



STATION 32 - 900 SPRING GARDEN AVE.

ENGINE 32 2007 KME 2000/500/25

TRUCK 32 2007 Seagrave 100'

SPILL 1 2006 GMC/PIERCE



STATION 34 - 3914 PERRYSVILLE AVE.

ENGINE 34 1997 SPARTAN/3D 1250/500/30



STATION 34 - 3284 CENTRAL AVE.

TRUCK 34 1987 Pierce/SMEAL 105'

DECON 2006 GMC/PIERCE



STATION 35 - 1519 ORCHLEE ST.

ENGINE 35 1986 Pierce 1500/500



STATION 37 - 1124 W. NORTH AVE.

ENGINE 37 1990 Pierce 1750/500

FOAM 37 1989 Pierce 1500/300/700/55'



STATION 38 - 198 ESSEN ST.

ENGINE 38 1990 Pierce 1750/500



TRAINING ACADEMY - INTERSECTION MT. WASHINGTON BLVD. & NEGLEY RUN

DECON 3 2006 GMC/PIERCE



SHOPS - 200 RAILROAD ST.

AERIAL 1 1987 E\-One 110' X-FAIRFAX COUNTY, VA.

AERIAL 2 1987 E\-One 110' X-FAIRFAX COUNTY, VA.



ON ORDER:

TRUCK 2009 Pierce 105' ASSIGNMENT TO TRUCK 8 (DUE APRIL)

TRUCK 2009 Pierce 105' ASSIGNMENT TO TRUCK 17 (DUE APRIL)

TRUCK 2009 Pierce 105' ASSIGNMENT TO TRUCK 24 (DUE APRIL)

TRUCK 2009 Pierce 105' ASSIGNMENT TO TRUCK 30 (DUE APRIL)

ENGINE 2009 Pierce 2000/470/30/75' ASSIGNMENT TO ENGINE 23 (DUE APRIL)

ENGINE 2009 KME 2000/500/25 ASSIGNMENT TO ENGINE 37 (DUE APRIL)

ENGINE 2009 KME 2000/500/25 ASSIGNMENT ENGINE 38 (DUE APRIL)

MAC 2009 IHC/KME ASSIGNMENT TO MAC 1 (DUE JAN)



PITTSBURGH EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES



STATION 1 - S. MILLVALE AVE.

RESCUE 1 2007 Pierce

HAZMAT 2006 Pierce



STATION 2 - FORBES AVE.

RESCUE 2 2007 Pierce



MCU 1 2007 GMC/PIERCE

[ATFagent]

Gentlemen,



I am sorry for the poor picture of this fine piece of equipment , but this ALF Tractor Drawn was at the Pechin's Auction. As you can see, it is painted in the Steeler/Pirates/Penguins black and gold. It was in a separate building that was not open to the general audience that day but I was able to lawfully gain entry. The label plate states the date of final manufacture as 10/74 and the VIN was C14 4067. It had a DD 8V-71N and an Allison 4 speed automatic transmission.



Many questions for the group:



1. Which company(s) did it serve at?



2. Who was the successful bidder?



3. Is it being well cared for now?

[Ladder 68]

Shoop,



Your list helped a lot, thanks. But it created a few questions for me too, ha ha.



Is Haz Mat 01 operated by PBEMS as indicated on your list or simply quartered with them? Is this '96 the while Pierce Saber with a green stripe? How is it staffed and run?



You have 2 Station #34's listed or is it a corner building with a bay on each street and therefore 2 addresses?



Great stuff again.



Thanks iun advance.

[Guest]

[quote name='ATFagent' post='270430' date='Jan 1 2009, 20:32 ']Gentlemen,



I am sorry for the poor picture of this fine piece of equipment , but this ALF Tractor Drawn was at the Pechin's Auction. As you can see, it is painted in the Steeler/Pirates/Penguins black and gold. It was in a separate building that was not open to the general audience that day but I was able to lawfully gain entry. The label plate states the date of final manufacture as 10/74 and the VIN was C14 4067. It had a DD 8V-71N and an Allison 4 speed automatic transmission.



Many questions for the group:



1. Which company(s) did it serve at?



2. Who was the successful bidder?



3. Is it being well cared for now?[/quote]

I believe that is in the Circleville Collection owned by Andy Lieder.

[John Kenealy]

[quote name='Wagon Master' post='270437' date='Jan 1 2009, 20:51 ']I believe that is in the Circleville Collection owned by Andy Lieder.[/quote]



October 2008 photo in Andy Leider's warehouse.

[Guest]

[quote name='CNYFireTrucks' post='270445' date='Jan 1 2009, 21:17 ']October 2008 photo in Andy Leider's warehouse.[/quote]

Lookslike it got a lil messed up during tow... Look at the nose is all bumped up.