History of the Atlanta Fire Dept.

[GA_Dave]

Is the airport not a money maker???

It sure is!!!! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



Oh, did you mean a moneymaker for Atlanta???<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[maxim]

Moneymaker for the City. Does the city not own it.



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[quote name='GA_Dave' post='292862' date='Mar 27 2009, 07:46 ']It sure is!!!! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />



Oh, did you mean a moneymaker for Atlanta???<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />[/quote]

[GA_Dave]

Moneymaker for the City. Does the city not own it.

The City of Atlanta owns the Hartsfield-Jackson-Williams-Campbell-Franklin-[insert name here] airport. A large portion of the airport property used to be owned by the City of College Park, where I am employed. Our City Fathers were ingenious back when Atlanta bought that property. We are doing very well!

[Shoe]

[quote name='GA_Dave' post='156634' date='Oct 17 2007, 09:52 ']I concur with Shoe's comments. The Fulton County Fire Department didn't exist until the late 1970's, BUT Fulton County did pay for the construction of several fire stations and apparatus prior to that. There is a guy I know on the AFD who kept very extensive records on their apparatus for many years. He should be able to help you out with the rosters you are working on. I'll contact him and send him your way.[/quote]

Dave: Who ware you referring to? MH?

[Shoe]

This picture is hanging in Station #19. We are trying to identify the rig in the picture. I'm thinking ALF, but the hood and radiator look wrong. I'm not an expert, so I am appealing to Steve and GaDave for help. This coming May is the 85th anniversary and we are thinking about doing this shot on a t-shirt. We'd like to be able to identify the rig with some certainty.

[GA_Dave]

Dave: Who ware you referring to? MH?

Yes.

This picture is hanging in Station #19. We are trying to identify the rig in the picture. I'm thinking ALF, but the hood and radiator look wrong. I'm not an expert, so I am appealing to Steve and GaDave for help. This coming May is the 85th anniversary and we are thinking about doing this shot on a t-shirt. We'd like to be able to identify the rig with some certainty.

Good call, Shoe, it's definitely an ALF. It has the long hood, so it also has the 105 hp. six-cylinder motor. Probably a 750 GPM pump. As for the year, I would say 'Teens or early 'Twenties.

[Guest]

Atlanta Engines 3, 18, 19 and 20 received 1920 & 1921 ALF 750 GPM Type 45 pumpers sometime during 1920 and 1921. I haven't been able to figure which ALF was assigned to which company, but the ALF serial #'s were 2955, 2956, 3199 and 3200. Sorry I can't be sure of which one was assigned to Engine 19.

[Shoe]

Awesome!!! Thanks guys... I knew that I could count on you!!!

[GA_Dave]

Awesome!!! Thanks guys... I knew that I could count on you!!!

I think we make a pretty good team! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />

[Shoe]

A question has come up...

The 1975, 1983 and 1992 yearbooks all state that #19 was opened on June 1, 1925. The plaque on the front of the station states 1924. If that is the case, they would not have been assigned an ALF in 1921. There is no record of a #19 before 1924 or 25. Records also show that #20 was opened in 1926.

[GA_Dave]

A question has come up...

The 1975, 1983 and 1992 yearbooks all state that #19 was opened on June 1, 1925. The plaque on the front of the station states 1924. If that is the case, they would not have been assigned an ALF in 1921. There is no record of a #19 before 1924 or 25. Records also show that #20 was opened in 1926.

Here's a possible explanation:



Providing everything we have stated this far is correct, Stations 19 and 20 could have been planned to be opened earlier than they actually did open. The apparatus could have been purchased and received well before the stations were ready or the additional personnel were hired/trained. I would guess that the 1920 rigs went to Engines 3 and 18 and the 1921 rigs went to Engines 19 and 20 as those stations opened. The plaque on 19's could have been made, based on a projected opening date, then that date was postponed. I don't know this for a fact, just offering a possible explanation. Perhaps anyone working at 19's or 20's might know if there is any kind of Company history records around???

[Shoe]

Well, I'm actually working at 19's now and there is nothing around there except the picture and the plaque out front. But, that does make sense though.

[Shoe]

Look what I found under the steps at the shop behind Station #7. These are the stone tablets from three stations that are no longer with us. I would have to look to see which stations they would be from. The first says "Erected 1901". The second says "Erected 1920" and the third can only be dated by the last line which says "W.R. Joyner Chief".

[Shoe]

#2

[Shoe]

#3.

These stones are in about the same condition as the department.

[Guest]

[quote name='Shoe' post='293514' date='Mar 29 2009, 22:48 ']Well, I'm actually working at 19's now and there is nothing around there except the picture and the plaque out front. But, that does make sense though.[/quote]



Hey Shoe, I am quite puzzled on these plaques. Original Station 4 opened in 1887. Original Station 5 opened in 1890. Station 6 and the original Station 7 were built and opened in 1894 and Station 8 was opened in 1896 at 50 Carnegie Way. Station 9 on southside near Turner Field was opened in 1903 and Oiginal Station 10 was opened in 1905. Station 11 opened in 1907. New Station 7 was opened in 1910. Station 10 by the way was the last firehouse that Chief "Cap" Wathal Joyner opened under his watch.



Not sure about original 2 or 3 but Original 1 was 1892.



I will try and figure that one out.

[Guest]

1901 was Station 3 after further investigation and 1920 was Station 17. The last chipped piece i dont know but Chief "Cap" Wathal Joyner opened Stations 1-10 under his watch.



Station 1 @ 44 W. Alabama St opened in 1892 replacing several older houses and locations. (Engine 1 "Hose 1" and H&L1 were in 2 seperate locations on Broad St as volly companies.)

Station 2 @ 206 Washington St opened in 1906 replacing an 1850's era volly house.

Station 3 @ 317 Latimer St opened in 1903 replacing an 1884 volly house.

Station 4 @ 87 N. Pryor St opened in 1887.

Station 5 @ Peters and Spring opened in 1890.

Station 6 @ 39 Boulevard opened in 1894.

Station 7 opened originally in 1894 (and relocated to other side of the RR tracks in 1910 by Chief William B. Cummings.)

Station 8 opened in 1896.

Station 9 opened in 1903.

Station 10 opened in 1905.

[Shoe]

Does anyone know the whereabouts of the original "Champagne Bulldog"? Steve, if you can help us out with a serial number, maybe we can track it down...

[Guest]

Atlanta's first three Mack CF models were purchased in 1970 and were 1000/500 pumpers as follows:

CF611F10-1346

CF611F10-1347

CF611F10-1348

I'm not sure who they were originally assigned to. My records show Engine 7, 10 and 23 operating with one of these in 1975 (not sure which company had which Mack).

[Shoe]

We are hoping to find one of the previous units that were assigned to Engine #19. We are planning the 85th Anniversary of the station.



Does anyone know where any of the Atlanta Mack CFs are?