This was special purchaed with two master streams since Truck 6 protects the west bottoms (Old Stock Yards). Very high fire load and the last General Alarm fire was there in 1999. General Alarm is where they recall off duty KCFD firemen to report to work. This was the first General Alarm in thirty or forty years. 1975 Truck 6 was a ALF 700 100ft tiller then in 1979 bacame a 85ft Sutphen, in 1996 took delivery of what is now Truck 13.
I would assume that all of the roll up doors and standard doors (everything except wheel-well bottle holders, front bumper cover, etc.) have electronic locks, thats how our ambulances are set up. One push of the key fob and everything either locks or unlocks.
[quote name='NinjaMedic2293' post='306785' date='May 19 2009, 00:00 ']I would assume that all of the roll up doors and standard doors (everything except wheel-well bottle holders, front bumper cover, etc.) have electronic locks, thats how our ambulances are set up. One push of the key fob and everything either locks or unlocks.[/quote]
[quote name='MFD 61 KS' post='306789' date='May 19 2009, 01:05 ']Each roll up door actually had a lock on it.[/quote]
My Rescue truck at work is that way with the rollup doors but that is only a manual override "Can also be locked with a key". All doors can still be locked or unlocked with the push of a button. Thanks for the pics. I too am curisos about all the locks on this rig. I'm sure it will not be setting outside the station all the time.
[quote name='Union Medic' post='307117' date='May 20 2009, 08:50 ']My Rescue truck at work is that way with the rollup doors but that is only a manual override "Can also be locked with a key". All doors can still be locked or unlocked with the push of a button. Thanks for the pics. I too am curisos about all the locks on this rig. I'm sure it will not be setting outside the station all the time.[/quote]
I will do some checking on the style of locks. This rig was quite the mystery. Many of us were shocked to see it, a very well kept secret. We just spent two years rewriting or county high-rise plan and had KCFD consult us. They never mentioned even the possiablity of this rig. We had the KCFD Air Wagon on our response plan.
[quote name='MFD 61 KS' post='306680' date='May 18 2009, 18:12 ']KCFD Truck 13 at Fire House Thirty-Nine (far east side of KC by sports complex) ex Truck 6
1996 Sutphen 100ft Tower
This is the last of a long line of Sutphens in the KCFD and it will soon be replaced. The first Sutphen was purchased in 1979 at the KC IAFC confrence in lime-green later repainted white over red it was 85ft. It served Truck 6 its entire career. The second Sutphen was a 1990 100ft lime-green never repainted assigned to Truck 3. The next three were 1993 104ft sticks with no pumps or tanks and white over red assigned to Trucks 8,12,13 all three have been totaled in accidents. The last two was this 1996 rig and a 1996 little sister 75ft Sutphen Quint assgined to Quint 38. It had a very short life and was gone entirly by 1998. Qunits have never fared well in the KCFD. Truck 13 is well liked by its crew and they are sad to see it go soon. Most likly it will be disposed of since there are no other rigs like it on the KCFD and they are trying to have a simlar truck fleet for operational safety.[/quote]
MFD 61 is the Sutphen at Truck 13 going to be replaced with another Tower Ladder or with a Straight Aerial?
05-20-2009, 08:57 PM (This post was last modified: 05-20-2009, 09:02 PM by Ladder 68.)
Couple of stupid questions about KCFD Haz Mat and Rescue Co. ops...
Is there a "Haz Mat" Co. or just the aforementioned HM Support Unit 71? If there is no specific HM Co., who staffs, or cross-staffs, the HM Support unit?
Do the respective Rescue Co.'s each have a specialty? Trench, Hi-Angle, Collapse, etc.
[quote name='Ladder 68' post='307228' date='May 20 2009, 19:58 ']Couple of stupid questions about KCFD Haz Mat and Rescue Co. ops...
Is there a "Haz Mat" Co. or just the aforementioned HM Support Unit 71? If there is no specific HM Co., who staffs, or cross-staffs, the HM Support unit?
Do the respective Rescue Co.'s each have a specialty? Trench, Hi-Angle, Collapse, etc.
Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Hi Larry,
Haz-Mat was created in November of 1988 and is funded through a sales tax passed in 1989. This was a direct result of the November 1988 explosion that killed six brother KCFD firemen on Pumper 30 and Pumper 41. The number 71 is a memorial to Pumper 30 and 41. They added the two numbers equaling 71.
Haz-Mat is stationed a Fire House 27 on the Far East side of KC off Truman Road and is only Haz-Mat 71 no other companies. This fire house was slated to be closed in 1977 since Fire House 24, Pumper 24 and Fire House 23, Pumper 23, Tiller Truck 10. and Car 104 are very very close. The neighborhood fought to keep it open so since 1977 the 1910 27's operated with just a two man Midi-Pumper Squad 27. In about 1993 one fireman fell through the stairs and was injuried and the fire house closed and raized. At that time Haz-Mat was crammed into Fire House 47 at the Fire Acadmey and needed a perment home. The neighborhood which is very rundown petioned to rebuild Fire House 27. Chief Fisher decided to build a new two story Fire House 27 with brass fire poles and make it home of Haz-Mat 71. This Fire House is special built for Haz-Mat and has a lab with a 40 hour chemist. Haz-Mat 71 has a very small first due area.
So Today Haz-Mat 71 has a crew of eight, two Captains, two FAO, four Firemen each shift. They are divided between Pumper 71, Support 71 each has a four man crew. There is a 40hour Haz-Mat BC Car 110 stationed at 27's. The Pumper is a demo E\-One rear mount pump, they purchased it because of the compartment space. Support 71 carries all of the air moniters, suits, everything under the sun and has a lab area. They also are responsiable for cross staffing Foam-Tanker 1 and Utility 71 and the Metro-Wide Command Bus. The Foam-Tanker can respond metro wide purchased with Homeland Security money. Utility 71 carries lots of oil dry and respondes to spilles all over the city of KC. Haz-Mat is a closed OT box so only Haz-Mat members can fill over time. If assigned to 71's it is three year comitment for FD members. So normally they call overtime if the Command Bus is need outside KC city limits. KCFD operates its own command bus at FH47. It is a very unique company and they will respond with both units to fires in or outside of 27's first due. There is no unit in the KCFD numbered 27 only the Fire House.
NOTE: Kansas City, Kansas Fire Department KCKFD has operated a Two Piece Haz-Mat company since 1977 and theirs is cross-staffed by Quint 2 and Pumper 3 two seperate fire houses. At one time it was housed at Fire House 2 and staffed by Pumper 2 and Truck 2 but budget cuts made Two's become a Single Quint and the company was split between Quint 2 and Pumper 3.
The KCFD Rescues all do the same specilty and if any rescue incident IE water, High Angle, RIT comes in all three 1,9,31 respond. Rescue 9 also brings Rescue 75 the Tractor Trailer Rescue Support Unit a Freightliner/ Hackney. They have six person staffing one Captain, two FAO, three firemen. Every fire and pin job gets one Rescue Company inaddtion to Pumpers and Trucks.
Tender 7 (57) cross-staffed at Olathe Fire House 7 ex Tanker 3 (523,533,53)
1996 Freightliner/E-One 1250/1250/100 class B foam
This unit and two Quints 1,4 were purchased in 1996 together. It was ordered with the commerical cab becuse at that time they did not think it would be used as a front line unit. The decsion was reversed and this unit was in frontline service to add millage from 1997-1999 replacing Engine 3 as Tanker 3. It was decided due to size, length, little room in the cab, and chassie-cab issues it would be moved back to cross-staffed status at 3's. They wish they had purchased custom with no bumper for tighter turning. Fire House 3 never need a tanker the area is fully hydranted but they could not justify placing a brand new unit in cross-staffed status. The tanker carries foam and is needed for Excutive Airport in three's district, however now it is at seven's becuse of rural water supply in the fire district to the south of the city limits. Seven's boraders three's south east district line.
Tender 7 (57) rear door a very unique tri-fold door to gain acess to the dump shoot. Unknown why it was not speced as a roll-up door. This was one area with poor spec design by OFD. You always get wet dumping the tank. There is only a 2.5 Tank Fill on the rear so it takes quite awhile to refill with water. However it has served a useful purpose.
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