Los Angeles County Fire Dept

[johndanger]

[quote name='casey' date='17 February 2010 - 12:40 AM' timestamp='1266384042' post='364596']

EST 33 was running in a Patrol because 33's is one of the busiest houses in the County avergaging 16-20 calls a shift the Station nickname is All Day All Night. The Old EST began to have numerous mechanical problems and was taken out of service and since the new EST's had yet to be deliverd they were given a patrol. It is widley beleived upon the eventual retirement of Chief Freeman the EST's will be taken out of service.

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Can you enlighten me again the roles of the EST and the patrols and what the differences are?

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[quote name='danger' date='17 February 2010 - 05:19 PM' timestamp='1266454798' post='364678']

Can you enlighten me again the roles of the EST and the patrols and what the differences are?

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Even though they look the same both are very quite diffirent







Photo by Monrovia1



EST 94 EST stands for Emergency Support Team the EST concept was thought of by Current LACo Chief Freeman. The original EST's were assigned to 18's, 42's, 59's, 85's, 94's, 129's 145's. EST 18 & 42 have NEVER been staffed. They are used as reserve est's when the others go down for mechanical reasons. The others are staffed with two firefighters. With some changes of apparatus up in the Antelope Valley EST 129 has now become EST 33. The EST's were originally placed at a four man engine company station. The Dept created an additional FF post position at these stations to give them a total of 5 personnel. The engine now became a 3 man engine & the est had 2 ff's.



The EST's were in an area that predominently had 3 man engine companies & they responded to augment that engines manpower. It was an attempt to add man power at a cheaper price rather than just putting a 4th FF on the 3 man Engines. The EST's respond only with certain stations. This is referred to as "The WHEEL" . The Wheel for each station encompasses about 6-8 stations. Example, EST59 responded with 59's, 96's, 15's, 49's, 28's & 91's (at the time, all were 3 man engines with the exception of E15). EST's are recommended on certain types of calls, ones that require man power (structures, hazmats, over the sides, etc). Medicals & single engine responses don't require an EST, this is why you here them add themselves to responses.



Just a little about that. Some stations where EST's are housed have new firefighters. Back in the begining of the EST's, the Captains at these stations theory was, "If I have to go on a Sick person at 2am, there is no way my 2 boot firefighters are going to stay in bed while I am gone. They are going with me." On the other side, there are a few EST stations that don't have boots & these guys don't ever add themselves to medical calls. Unless there brush in the first in district of a station in the area the EST covers EST's will not respond on Brush responses. Today there are EST units at 85, 33, 145, 94 Thanks to a board member of Lacountyfire.com whos previous posting helped explain this.







Patrol 120 Photo by Monrovia1.



A Patrol is used in station's that have large brush area's in there first in districts Patrols are housed at 82, 44, 97, 120, 86, 74, 91 just to name a few the Patrol is manned with 1 Firefighter who also serves as the 4th man on the engine comapny and is manned 24/7, They are used for responses such over the sides, assisting with missing and injured hikers as well as patrolling there brush areas.

[chcmedic93]

[quote name='casey' date='17 February 2010 - 06:07 PM' timestamp='1266457648' post='364685']

Even though they look the same both are very quite diffirent







Photo by Monrovia1

EST 94 EST stands for Emergency Support Team the EST concept was thought of by Current LACo Chief Freeman. The original EST's were assigned to 18's, 42's, 59's, 85's, 94's, 129's 145's. EST 18 & 42 have NEVER been staffed. They are used as reserve est's when the others go down for mechanical reasons. The others are staffed with two firefighters. With some changes of apparatus up in the Antelope Valley EST 129 has now become EST 33. The EST's were originally placed at a four man engine company station. The Dept created an additional FF post position at these stations to give them a total of 5 personnel. The engine now became a 3 man engine & the est had 2 ff's.



The EST's were in an area that predominently had 3 man engine companies & they responded to augment that engines manpower. It was an attempt to add man power at a cheaper price rather than just putting a 4th FF on the 3 man Engines. The EST's respond only with certain stations. This is referred to as "The WHEEL" . The Wheel for each station encompasses about 6-8 stations. Example, EST59 responded with 59's, 96's, 15's, 49's, 28's & 91's (at the time, all were 3 man engines with the exception of E15). EST's are recommended on certain types of calls, ones that require man power (structures, hazmats, over the sides, etc). Medicals & single engine responses don't require an EST, this is why you here them add themselves to responses.



Just a little about that. Some stations where EST's are housed have new firefighters. Back in the begining of the EST's, the Captains at these stations theory was, "If I have to go on a Sick person at 2am, there is no way my 2 boot firefighters are going to stay in bed while I am gone. They are going with me." On the other side, there are a few EST stations that don't have boots & these guys don't ever add themselves to medical calls

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Thanks.

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LA County Safety Officer Photo by Monrovia1.

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Engine 29 Photo by Monrovia1.

[hp1530]

Quick run around of HAZ MAT 129, officer's side overhead info center, speedometer, temp gauge, clock

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The cab command area, yes the dept still uses these older MDT

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The rear command/control area

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Inside the rear

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Another shot of the other side

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Engine 48 stationed in Irwindale CA Photo by Monrovia1.

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Quint 86. Photo by Monrovia1.

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MAU 115 Photo by Monrovia1.

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Engine 44 Photo by Monrovia1.

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Engine 14

[Truckman]

One would have thought they would have moved to a newer MDT, aka MDC by now. We had those old birds for years. Most guys went half blind trying to read the screen!!! Plus with my big fingers I kept hitting the wrong key when I was actually trying not to!!

[memphise34a]

[quote name='Truckman' date='06 March 2010 - 08:55 AM' timestamp='1267886125' post='368264']

One would have thought they would have moved to a newer MDT, aka MDC by now. We had those old birds for years. Most guys went half blind trying to read the screen!!! Plus with my big fingers I kept hitting the wrong key when I was actually trying not to!!

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Ha! At least they have one. We NEVER have.

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Copter 19 Photo by Monrovia1.

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New Patrol 97 Photo by Monrovia1. Old Patrol 97 is now Patrol 86.

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Engine 151 sporting a new grill decal and number plates Photo by Monrovia1.