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Minnesota Apparatus
[quote name='hoss' post='316919' date='Jun 26 2009, 05:10 ']What is the fire duty (fire call volume), staffing per and are they vol/call/combo/paid, and population of the major FDs in MN?[/quote]



Here's a good resource that will give you some good snapshots of at least the greater Minneapolis-St. Paul Metro Area:



[url="http://www.tcmfd.com/"]Twin Cities Metro Fire Directory[/url]
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[quote name='hoss' post='316919' date='Jun 26 2009, 05:10 ']What is the fire duty (fire call volume), staffing per and are they vol/call/combo/paid, and population of the major FDs in MN?[/quote]



This is all off the top of my head and may have changed but it's all in the ballpark.



Minneapolis is approx. 110 on duty per day. 19 engines, 5 ladders. They run first response EMS with county ambulance and private ambulance. Pop is approx. 370,000



St. Paul is similar with 18 engines and 7 ladders. They are a paramedic service with ALS ambulances. Pop is around 300,000+



The twin cities is land locked by TONS of suburbs. Maybe 100 or more. They all have their own government, PD, FD, etc. Some cities have combined efforts but not many.

The vast majority are paid-on-call maybe with a small number of full-time. Some have more full-time then others and a few have full-time only. Mutual aid is very common.

Fire volume is pretty low for a major metro area IMHO. Of course I worked in Memphis for 2 years so to me it seems almost non-existent.



Duluth is full-time with some staffing issues I believe. 9 or so stations with 3 on a truck or even less unless it's improved. First response with Gold Cross ambulance (Mayo owned)



Rochester is 5 stations. Unsure of crew sizes. First response with Gold Cross ambulance.



We have several suburbs approaching 100,000 population that still maintain mostly paid-on-call staff. Bloomington (covers Mall of America) is all volunteer still except maybe the chief and they have 7 stations I believe.



Not much is burning up here but lately we've had some large apartment building fires.



Anybody feel free to correct my mistakes. Again all off the top of my head. Pizza is here. I might add more later.
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Jamey:



Good response to the question. I did a little research and of the 10 most populated cities in Minnesota, ranging in populations from 388,000(Mpls) to 62,000 (Eden Prairie) only 5 are true Full Time departments. There are other FT departments in smaller cities, but I would suspect that over 90% of the departments are POC or some type of combination.



Minneapolis runs 19 engine companies, with 3 of those being 100' quints (E-2,15,20) There are 6 ladder companies(2,3,4,5,10,11), with L-2 and 5 running 100' quints as truck companies. The department also runs two Heavy Rescues R-1 and 9. As far as staffing goes, the department will go down to the low 90's before calling back members. Ambulance service is provided by Hennepin County and North Memorial Hospitals, with Mpls being first responders.



St. Paul is in better shape. The department operates 16 engines, 7 ladders, and three Heavy Rescues, out of 16 stations. The ladders and Rescues have pumps and tanks on them, because of how St. Paul does EMS. There are 11 Medic units in the city that are cross staffed by the engine crew, where they are assigned. When an EMS call is dispatched, all 4 FF's will run the call in the ambulance. With things being what they are these days, you can have several Engine companies tied up on EMS calls. The Ladders and Squads can be dispatched to minor fires and the Squads have also been known to pull a line at a structure fire, although it is not their primary duty. Daily staffing runs around 111 per day with all units having 4 FF's on them and the Squads running with 5.



The third largest city is Rochester, at about 100,000. The department runs out of 5 stations, with 5 engine companies and two ladders. The department also runs two light rescues out of Stations 1 & 4. I believe that two FF's jump off the ladders and run these units as EMS response units. Gold Cross does ALS transport.



Bloomington is the fourth largest city with a population of about 85,000. They have the responsiblilty of the Mall of America. They run a total POC department of 140, out of 6 stations. The city website advertises an average response time of 4.1 minutes. The department operates 6 engines, 3 reserve engines, and 5 ladders. The department recently started staffing at leas 1 station with a day time duty crew. The department did not do first responder EMS calls in the past, but that may have changed with the addition of the Duty Crew. Allina EMS staffs two ALS ambulances in the city.





As Jamey indicated, the rest of the Metro is made up of suburban departments that are staffed with a mix of POC, FT and some combination of both.



Questions and corrections welcomed.
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Given its relative success, I think you're going to see more & more cities take the Eagan (pop. 65,000) approach in offering free room & board in return for fire service:

[url="http://www.startribune.com/local/south/47110597.html?elr=KArks%3a%44CiUocOaL_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU"]At Home in the Firehouse (Star Tribune article)[/url]

[url="http://wcco.com/local/eagan.fire.department.2.637164.html"]Eagan Fire Department Offers Free Housing (WCCO TV)[/url]
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Are you anywhere near Bruno, or have I asked you that already? I am looking for our old Young Crusader II from NY.
[color="#CC0000"]Young: The Cadillac Of Fire Apparatus.



Andy Pagano[/color]
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[quote name='paganores10cue' post='323835' date='Jul 23 2009, 22:58 ']Are you anywhere near Bruno, or have I asked you that already? I am looking for our old Young Crusader II from NY.[/quote]



I have never even heard of that town im sorry
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I thought that I would try and revive this thread by posting this beauty. We found it last winter, on a nose up against the window of the Fire Station trip. I don't know how many were built, and the only other one I remember was the Wayne Twp, IN rig that I think was on a larger version of this chassis.









1993 Spartan/Amtech Model#SP-2142
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[quote name='photobuff6162' date='30 June 2006 - 11:29 AM' timestamp='1151680191' post='657']

Probably the find of the trip. Firepics member Paul Barrett was reunited with this beauty that he rode on as a young FF in St. Paul. It was recently sold to a suburban Fire Chief in the cities and should make the parade rounds soon.



1957 Seagrave 85'MM SN#K205 Ex St. Paul L-5 L-6.

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I think this is the ladder truck that was on 1 of the episodes this season of 1 of my favorite shows on tv that would be Wrecked. they had to tow it because i think the brakes went out. JIMMY LONG/FIREBOX 73/ ESSEX,MD
UNTIL THE NEXT BOX ALARM.
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One of my favorite SPFD engines because it was unique. Does anybody know where it is now?



x-E24

1999 Freightliner/E-One

1250/750


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It was inherited by the dept when they took over jurisdiction of the VA hospital. When 24's got a new rig, it was given back to the fed.



Will
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My immediate first thought on this rig was that it looks like the Charlie Brown Christmas Tree of Fire Engines. Poor thing.

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[quote name='willman940' date='06 February 2010 - 09:10 PM' timestamp='1265511028' post='362565']

It was inherited by the dept when they took over jurisdiction of the VA hospital. When 24's got a new rig, it was given back to the fed.



Will

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Thanks for the info Will. Too bad they didn't keep it around as a reserve.



Bill.
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I'm not sure what Minneapolis officially called this. The guy that pulled it out of the station back in 1994 called it the Sand Truck but he wasn't sure.



I believe this is the 1976 International that is now pulling one of the Decon trailers out of Station 19. If it is, it's now sporting a different paint scheme.


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[quote name='Bill Weis' date='06 February 2010 - 11:03 AM' timestamp='1265470983' post='362477']

One of my favorite SPFD engines because it was unique. Does anybody know where it is now?



x-E24

1999 Freightliner/E-One

1250/750

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ITS NOW SERVING AT THE VA MEDICAL CENTER IN KNOXVILLE, IA AS THEIR RESERVE ENGINE.
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[quote name='SPFDE8' date='07 February 2010 - 09:24 PM' timestamp='1265598277' post='362755']

ITS NOW SERVING AT THE VA MEDICAL CENTER IN KNOXVILLE, IA AS THEIR RESERVE ENGINE.

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Thanks for the info.
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A Luverne factory photo,

De Graff MN 1962 Luverne IH

62-G-2
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St Paul Hazmat and Decon Unit



I think this is housed at the shops but don't know that for sure.


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[quote name='photobuff6162' date='28 July 2009 - 10:04 PM' timestamp='1248835478' post='325015']

I thought that I would try and revive this thread by posting this beauty. We found it last winter, on a nose up against the window of the Fire Station trip. I don't know how many were built, and the only other one I remember was the Wayne Twp, IN rig that I think was on a larger version of this chassis.









1993 Spartan/Amtech Model#SP-2142

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Interesting piece
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[quote name='photobuff6162' date='06 March 2009 - 10:16 PM' timestamp='1236394593' post='287578']

You might wonder why Squad 1 is on a Ford L chassis. A couple weeks after going into service, the squad was involved in an accident ans was rebuilt with a 1996 Ford chassis.







That's all I have for St. Paul, without just posting duplicates of the same apparatus already posted.



As always, I hope that you enjoy them.

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Nice shot. like the before and after photos
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