F.D.N.Y.

[Russell]

[quote name='WFDT42' post='324218' date='Jul 25 2009, 22:47 ']I know this is off topic of apparatus but I'm not very familiar with NYC, what is City Islands demographics, etc like?[/quote]



Check out this link, [url="http://www.cityisland.com/"]http://www.cityisland.com/[/url] it looks like a pretty cool place to visit.

[R1SmokeEater]

[quote name='Russell' post='324264' date='Jul 26 2009, 11:19 ']Check out this link, [url="http://www.cityisland.com/"]http://www.cityisland.com/[/url] it looks like a pretty cool place to visit.[/quote]



City Island is definitely a unique place in the "middle" of The Bronx !

[anesti]

[quote name='R1SmokeEater' post='324266' date='Jul 26 2009, 11:29 ']City Island is definitely a unique place in the "middle" of The Bronx ![/quote]





City island is nice if you avoid the tip, thats where all the rats congregate especially friday and saturday nights. and but any part of city island is nice i go fishing of the pier by the bridge and just relax for the day.

[Guest]

Once you go over the Bridge onto the Island it is like going to a small New England Town...especially some of the side streets by the water

[Guest]

I dug this up from another site...FDNewYork.com



Engine 70 in 08



280 runs 136 ems 280 workers 6 OSW



Truck 53 in 08



142 Runs 0 EMS 142 Workers 10 OSW





My question is do they ever cover or move from the island?? im guessing the engine would not move but the truck maybe?? thanks

[R1SmokeEater]

[quote name='eddiemo08' post='324370' date='Jul 26 2009, 16:36 ']I dug this up from another site...FDNewYork.com



Engine 70 in 08



280 runs 136 ems 280 workers 6 OSW



Truck 53 in 08



142 Runs 0 EMS 142 Workers 10 OSW





My question is do they ever cover or move from the island?? im guessing the engine would not move but the truck maybe?? thanks[/quote]



To my knowledge they do not really leave the Island an definitely don't relocate.

[e290l103]

no there are a few that do not relocate. there are some that are must fill houses also, meaning if the company is going to be out for more than 30min. they must have a relocator placed there.

[Ladder 68]

I knew of the "must fill" houses, but never understood if it was due to geographic distance from second due companies and/or if it was due to call volume and fire duty. Any idea?



Also, with the recent attempts to close companies how did the Queens house with 2 Engine Co.'s and 1 Truck Co. manage to avoid closing one of the Engine Co.'s? Does their call volume justify the double companies or is for other reasons?



Thanks in advance.

[R1SmokeEater]

[quote name='Ladder 68' post='324438' date='Jul 26 2009, 19:48 ']I knew of the "must fill" houses, but never understood if it was due to geographic distance from second due companies and/or if it was due to call volume and fire duty. Any idea?



Also, with the recent attempts to close companies how did the Queens house with 2 Engine Co.'s and 1 Truck Co. manage to avoid closing one of the Engine Co.'s? Does their call volume justify the double companies or is for other reasons?



Thanks in advance.[/quote]



-Larry, I believe 70/53 on City Island is because how far 2nd due companies are from that location-and there is a fire load of old frames on the island.I was in awe that the truck was on the chopping block ! Like crossBronx said, thank goodness for the residents of CI for making their voices heard !!



- Mot sure on E264/328 L134, but the Rockaways have a unique area to protect as well.............



The FDNY Brothers can fill in more.

[anesti]

[quote name='Ladder 68' post='324438' date='Jul 26 2009, 19:48 ']I knew of the "must fill" houses, but never understood if it was due to geographic distance from second due companies and/or if it was due to call volume and fire duty. Any idea?



Also, with the recent attempts to close companies how did the Queens house with 2 Engine Co.'s and 1 Truck Co. manage to avoid closing one of the Engine Co.'s? Does their call volume justify the double companies or is for other reasons?



Thanks in advance.[/quote]





i think but not %100 sure those 2 engine companies in the same house in the rockaways have completely different first due assignments as one responds to the west and the other to the east.

[Guest]

Not to change the subject, but with earlier discussion of the ALF being a "lemon" and that's why it's where it is......what was the consensus of the Ferrara engine that was at 283?



I recall reading in one place or another that the guys liked it, but it wasn't holding up well. Don't know if that was truth, rumor, hearsay or what.

[Guest]

[quote name='Crossbronxxpress' post='324239' date='Jul 26 2009, 08:39 ']Yes, i'm trying to remember since it's been 8 years, but I believe it was also out at 257 Engine in Brooklyn for a bit. From what I was told by the guys who worked on it, they had a bunch of problems with it. I guess you could say that's why the job never purchased another.[/quote]

Same was true with the 1996 E\-One the Sity tested. Spoke to a deal in NJ that I know and they were not allowed to talk about it. I did hear the words CRACKS and WELDS used.

<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_5_15.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> The TOUGHTEST Job on Earth... (On Rigs!) <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Marc]

[quote name='AndyC3J' post='324452' date='Jul 26 2009, 20:41 ']Not to change the subject, but with earlier discussion of the ALF being a "lemon" and that's why it's where it is......what was the consensus of the Ferrara engine that was at 283?



I recall reading in one place or another that the guys liked it, but it wasn't holding up well. Don't know if that was truth, rumor, hearsay or what.[/quote]



The Ferrara that was donated by the residents of Louisiana was another rig that didn't hold up well from what I was told. They took it back down to New Orleans when Katrina hit, and supposedly were gonna re-donate it back to Louisiana since N.O.F.D. lost some rigs. Heard that some people were offended that we were gonna give it back to them.

[jquest6368]

[quote name='Fireman5230' post='324548' date='Jul 27 2009, 00:16 ']Same was true with the 1996 E\-One the Sity tested. Spoke to a deal in NJ that I know and they were not allowed to talk about it. I did hear the words CRACKS and WELDS used.

<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_5_15.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> The TOUGHTEST Job on Earth... (On Rigs!) <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />[/quote]

You will also hear the words CRACKS and WELDS along with CHASSIS regarding the 2002 E\-One Cyclone II/Saulsbury rescues...hmmmmm...I wonder why they gave Pierce a try??? <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Guest]

[quote name='jquest6368' post='324639' date='Jul 27 2009, 12:57 ']You will also hear the words CRACKS and WELDS along with CHASSIS regarding the 2002 E\-One Cyclone II/Saulsbury rescues...hmmmmm...I wonder why they gave Pierce a try??? <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/stirpot.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />[/quote]

Trenton NJ I know broke EVERY Weld in their E\-One Hush Rescue... More then ONE TIME. I think also Newark had the same issues with some of their rigs... Anyone know if there were issues with Boston's E-Ones? <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/offtopic.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Frank B]

Every now and then this topic with truck problems (E-1, Pierce, KME, ALF) pops up.

I heard from Boston fire fighters that the E-1's held up OK. I wanted to know how the Aluminium Aerials held up.



Over all E-1 has few problems. Nothing worth mentioning unless we are talking for big city use.

I guess these trucks are not Heavy duty compaired to Seagrave.

I asked FDNY fire fighters if any problems were encountered with my favorite rig of all, the Sutphen towers.

I was told that there was none, but they stopped buying them because of specialized training and parts needed to keep them running.



I like reading about these fire apparatus manufacture issues.

<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/devil.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/3_12_25v.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Ladder 68]

No matter maker, they all have problems and all have their "lemon" horror stories from Pierce, to Seagrave. to E\-One, to KME, to Sutphen, etc...



Also, Pierce was in FDNY once before with rescue rigs in the 70's on Mack R chassis...FDNY then left them to go to Saulsbury if memory serves...so even Pierce was dismissed for another builder before.

[jquest6368]

[quote name='anesti' post='323696' date='Jul 23 2009, 16:08 ']out of curiosity are there any pre fdny ems pics in this pile???[/quote]

I just started a New York City ambulances thread under "Other Energency Vehicles"...startted posting from my collection...have 7 or 8 NYC EMS photos up.

[Guest]

[quote name='Ladder 68' date='Jul 27 2009, 18:57 ' post='324708']

No matter maker, they all have problems and all have their "lemon" horror stories from Pierce, to Seagrave. to E\-One, to KME, to Sutphen, etc...



That is a VERY true statement

[R1SmokeEater]

More to follow, including foam apparatus.