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[quote name='Shoop' post='335683' date='Sep 10 2009, 21:10 ']All three quints have been replaced. Total of 7 105' aerials from Pierce. More orders should be taking place in the near future.



Here is a run down on new rigs if interested.



2005 - HME/Toynes arrived

2006 - 1 Seagrave Ladder

2007 - 2 Seagrave Ladders, 1 Pierce Quint, and 3 KME Engines

2008 - 3 Pierce Ladders, 1 Pierce Quint, 3 KME Engines

2009 - 4 Pierce Ladders, 1 Pierce Quint, 2 KME Engines, 1 IHC/KME MAC



Also heard, that KME is about to go out the door. We will see, I'm hoping the city starts buying Pierce engines.[/quote]

They had good luck with the 86's and 92's. Looks as if this will retire the old Pierce aerials. The Ferraras will be reserve. Remember. KME..... Keeping Mechanics Employed!!!! They need to look at the specs of Wagon 3 from Harrisburg. Would not be a bad idea.
Ed Saliba Jr.

1st Assistant Chief

City of New Kensington Bureau of Fire
I.S.O. Class 4 Department
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[quote name='Shoop' post='335683' date='Sep 10 2009, 21:10 ']All three quints have been replaced. Total of 7 105' aerials from Pierce. More orders should be taking place in the near future.



Here is a run down on new rigs if interested.



2005 - HME/Toynes arrived

2006 - 1 Seagrave Ladder

2007 - 2 Seagrave Ladders, 1 Pierce Quint, and 3 KME Engines

2008 - 3 Pierce Ladders, 1 Pierce Quint, 3 KME Engines

2009 - 4 Pierce Ladders, 1 Pierce Quint, 2 KME Engines, 1 IHC/KME MAC



Also heard, that KME is about to go out the door. We will see, I'm hoping the city starts buying Pierce engines.[/quote]



Pat or anyone,

Do you know if the two 1991 Pierce pumpers at E37 & E38 will go into reserve or replace any older engines that is still running first line?

I still have E19 & E35 still running with 1986 Pierce Dashes. I would think these if not already, be replaced with re-assigned pieces.

Also, what happened to the 1997 Spartan/3-D that E3 had which was replaced in 2008 by one of the KME pumpers?

Thanks in advance

Jeff



Bring Back the Gold & Black paint scheme!
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[quote name='PFDEng1' post='335720' date='Sep 10 2009, 23:00 ']Pat or anyone,

Do you know if the two 1991 Pierce pumpers at E37 & E38 will go into reserve or replace any older engines that is still running first line?

I still have E19 & E35 still running with 1986 Pierce Dashes. I would think these if not already, be replaced with re-assigned pieces.

Also, what happened to the 1997 Spartan/3-D that E3 had which was replaced in 2008 by one of the KME pumpers?

Thanks in advance

Jeff



Bring Back the Gold & Black paint scheme![/quote]







Most likely reserve. The slower houses still run the 86 pierces and for the most part they are in ok shape. I know E 15 was falling apart and has seen better days, not sure about 37 and 38 but for whatever reason those were in rougher shape to be replaced. There are still a few of the 86s floating around and as long as they arnt rusted out or have major problems they will be kept front line.
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Jeff,



The 1986, and 1991 Pierce's are all in bad shape. Engine 19 has been running a 1991 Pierce for the past 5 years. I photographed it in 2005, it was in such bad shape that the body was rusted to the point everything looked as if it would fall off. In 2007 I stopped in again, this time they had another 1991, but a different one from the first time. I haven't had a chance to confirm it yet, but I believe that Engine 35 got X-Engine 3's 1997 Spartan/3D. That would have replaced the last 1986 Pierce in service. There are still some 1986 engines floating around in reserve status, as well as some of the 1991's, but if the rigs are in bad shape the department is scrapping them. A couple of the quints have also been scrapped already. I haven't heard much as far as how many more engines, and aerials the city plans to purchase, but if I had to guess at least 6 more engines, 1 ladder, and possibly replacement of the foam unit. There are still 2 (1993 ALF Patriots), 2 (1991 Pierce), and 2 (1997 Spartan/3D) that need replaced in engines. The last remaining HME/Ferrara at Truck 30 would be the ladder.
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I am looking for a picture of a rig I once rode that was sold used to Pittsburg. It is an '86 E\-One 110 rear mount.

Ex Fairfax County, VA. T11. I am looking for it with Pittsburg lettering. I don't have any shop information on it except it was FxCo vehicle 7176. I am pretty sure it was sold to PFD as I have seen on scene pictures of it. Any help would be appriciated.



Joe
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Anyone got an assignment history of the PBF rigs...who had what assigned, where they were re-assigned, etc. In particular the truck company rigs.



Thanks in advance for any help.
Larry Di Camillo

Fire Chief

Stafford Fire Department

www.staffordfirerescue.org



Engineer/Operator

Houston Fire Department

Ladder Co. 68 "A"

www.firehouse68.com
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Joe,



Check out my website. Both of the X-Fairfax Ladders should be on there.



Larry,



Jeff Mogush had a pretty good run down on the roster up until a certain point. The only person I know of that would have had that set up would have been John Schmidt, who passed away a year or two ago. Pittsburgh has done so much rearranging in the past 20 years that I have no idea how to even begin trying to figure out what is where, and where it originally served. The newer stuff 1997 to present hasn't been very difficult, because everything has been purchased in small amounts. The 1986, 87, 91 Pierce engines, and aerials have been reassigned numerous times with station closures.
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rpatterson & shoop,



Thanks for the info.

Here's a list that I have of units that have been replaced the past few years and I don't have the re-assignments or disposition of them.

Some of the years served with the particular company may be slightly off on the list.



Engine 37 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 ('91-09) A000220

Engine 38 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 ('91-09) A00151

Engine 23 1992 ALF Century 2000 MFD 1500/500 75' Aerial RM (‘92-09) A091013

Truck 8 1997 HME 1871 MFDR/Ferrara/RK Aerials 109' Aerial ('97-09) WZ18360

Truck 17 1988 Pierce Dash 105' Aerial RM ('88-09) A040463

Truck 24 1996 HME 1871 MFDR/Ferrara 109' Aerial RM ('96-09) WZ18361

Truck 34 1988 Pierce Dash 105' Aerial RM ex T35,T33 (‘??-09) A040123



Engine 3 1997 Spartan Gladiator SFDR/3-D TM1750/500 (‘97-08) C022043

Engine 7 1994 ALF Patriot SFDR TM1750/500 ex E30 (‘00-07) WZ17771

Engine 32 1994 ALF Patriot SFDR TM1750/500 (‘94-07) WZ17770



Engine 18 1992 ALF Century 2000 MFD 1500/500 75' Aerial RM (‘92-07) A091014



Engine 4 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 (‘91-02) A000190

Engine 6 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 ex E22 (‘00-05) OO218

Engine 10 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 (‘91-05) A00195

Engine 15 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 (‘91-08) OO174

Engine 17 1991 Pierce Dash SFDR TM1750/500 (‘91-02) A000118



Engine 7 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E33 (‘??-07) A040499

Engine 13 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E17 (‘02-08) A040556

Engine 21 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E17 (??-??) A040527

Engine 26 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E23 (‘92-05) A040563

Engine 29 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E18 (‘??-00) A040550

Engine 34 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E8 (??-??) A040508

Engine 36 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E32 (‘07-??) A040516

Engine 39 1986 Pierce Dash TM1500/500 ex E6 (‘05-??) A040522



Truck 14 1988 Pierce Dash 105' Aerial RM ex T15 (‘88-07) A040107

Truck 32 1996 HME 1871 MFDR/Ferrara 109' Aerial RM ex T33 (‘??-07) WZ18362



MFD - Medium four door cab

MFDR - Medium four door cab w/ raised roof

SFDR - Short four door cab w/ raised roof (jumpseat doors face the rear of the unit)

TM - Top-Mount pump panel
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Jeff,



I wish I could help you more with your info, but I can't. The city is getting rid of rigs as fast as they are putting them in service. The goal for ladders was to put the HME/Ferrara's into reserve, and get rid of everything else including the E\-One aerials from Fairfax, VA. I saw A-32 the other day, which would have been X-T32. There should be an A-8, and A-24 showing up shortly. I'm not sure what the plan is for engines at this time. I know the goal was to enclose every cab in the department. I have seen a lot of the 91's at the shops though ready to be disposed of. Engine 18's quint was disposed of. I believe 23, and 27's will be the reserves. Next time I'm in the City, which will be after G-20 I'll stop in at the academy, and the shops and talk to the guys I know. I'm sure they can fill in a few more of the blanks. The City of Pittsburgh plans on having the 2 new engines, 1 new quint, and 4 ladders in service by G-20.
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Last i saw... ENGINE 38 was sitting in Carnegie Fire Dept's station awaiting delivery.
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Engine 15 KME


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[quote name='schs' date='16 February 2010 - 05:29 AM' timestamp='1266314986' post='364396']

Engine 15 KME

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any hose bed shots?
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Joe,



I don't have any hosebed shots available, but when I make my first trip to Pittsburgh in March, I'll get some for you.
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Guys,



Quick question, does the Polish Hill section have a specific truck/engine assigned or is there a special company patch for that section of the city? As a practicing Polock (heehee) and a visitor to that section of the city (while visiting freinds in Irwin) I was curious what might be out there.



Tried in vain to get one of the "no parking polish hill" signs but was told that is taboo to do in the City.



Thanks!
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crashresq21,



Unfortunately not. Polish Hill would be covered By Engine 3 in the Strip District, and Engine/Truck 6 in Lawrenceville. Only a few stations in the City have their own station decals. It actually wasn't allowed for the longest time. Engine/Truck 6, and Quint 23 are the only two I can think of off hand with their own decals. Hope this helps.
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[quote name='Shoop' date='16 February 2010 - 03:31 PM' timestamp='1266351074' post='364444']

crashresq21,



Unfortunately not. Polish Hill would be covered By Engine 3 in the Strip District, and Engine/Truck 6 in Lawrenceville. Only a few stations in the City have their own station decals. It actually wasn't allowed for the longest time. Engine/Truck 6, and Quint 23 are the only two I can think of off hand with their own decals. Hope this helps.

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thanks Shoop no problem.
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Any pictures of the new 2009 ladders?
Kory Green



Captain

Dresden Fire Department



Training Officer

Martin Fire Department
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I posted photos of all of them in a seperate thread. Trucks 8, 17, 24, 26, and Engine 23. You will have to do a search for them.
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[quote name='mgk110' date='18 February 2010 - 07:53 AM' timestamp='1266496414' post='364742']

Sorry this is all I had with the cover down. [ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND]

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Thanks Brother!!
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Bring Back the Gold & Black paint scheme!

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In honor of the Steelers making the Super Bowl, here's a gold and black 1981 Ford L/Grumman 1000/500 from E-25.This station was a landmark on RT51 when we traveled to games back in the 1990's.

J. Atkinson photo, Jenkins collection



GO [color="#FFFF00"][/color]STEELERS!!!


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