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Fire trucks and trains...
#1
Since moving to Winchester, Virginia, I have had a good time exploring the local fire departments. The Winchester and Western Railroad runs very close to several fire departments within Frederick County, which surrounds Winchester.



This is Round Hill Station 15 in Frederick County. While heading out the other evening for dinner, we heard the train cross busy Route 50 West near my home. Once we caught up with the train, I knew it was heading towards Round Hill so me made a stop and waited the short time for it to arrive.



Obviously, the tracks go right across the front apron of Station 15. Hope the big one never hits when the train is coming through. I have been told that the fire department is rarely delayed waiting for a train to pass and most of the trains are shorter in length.



Hope you enjoy the photos.





Photo 1 - Winchester and Western approaching Fire Station 15.





Mike Sanders

Winchester, VA


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#2
Closer...





Mike Sanders

Winchester, VA


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Final photo.





Mike Sanders

Winchester, VA


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#4
Those are some great photos. That is crazy about the tracks right in front of the station.
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#5
Wow those are some cool shots. Like that GP-7 in the lead
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#6
I have never seen that before. It's amazing the dept put up with that location for so long. How long has the station been there?



Worst case scenario a train is going by and goes into emergency while still blocking the apron.
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#7
Warwick, NY has a rail line that runs right through the center of the village. That's one of the key reasons why they built a third station on the south side of the tracks.....it's not uncommon for the whole village to be cut in half by a passing freight, and the south side would have no access (or fire protection) for a time until the train passed.



Agree with the others.....that looks very odd to have the track run right across the apron of the firehouse like that. Definitely not something you see every day (unless you live there, of course!)
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#8
Great shots, fire apparatus, train and a Sterling house siren, doesn't get any better than that.
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#9
Chatham, NY is similar, although the bays on side of the station allow most of the rigs to dump out onto a side street. A shot from May 2001 when I first started seriously buffing.


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#10
They should put a set of train horns on their wagon just to screw with the locals!!!
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[quote name='WAGONMAN' date='03 October 2009 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1254623165' post='340713']

Great shots, fire apparatus, train and a Sterling house siren, doesn't get any better than that.

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Good photos by the way...
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#12
Not nearly as dramatic as Mike's shots, but I caught this Ontario Midland crossing near the Sodus Center firehouse in Wayne County NY.


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#13
Mike - Great shots!



Doesn't the railroad right-of-way extend 100 feet either side of the track centerline? Was the fire station built on RR ROW?



Phil, Bklyn.
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[quote name='AndyC3J' date='03 October 2009 - 10:30 PM' timestamp='1254622257' post='340708']

Warwick, NY has a rail line that runs right through the center of the village. That's one of the key reasons why they built a third station on the south side of the tracks.....it's not uncommon for the whole village to be cut in half by a passing freight, and the south side would have no access (or fire protection) for a time until the train passed.



Agree with the others.....that looks very odd to have the track run right across the apron of the firehouse like that. Definitely not something you see every day (unless you live there, of course!)

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Oneida NY used to have two stations, when the city was bisected by the New York Central RR 4 track mainline. A tragedy happened one night in Sept. 1963 when their open cab 1955 Ward LaFrance collided with a passing freight. Both firemen on the truck were killed.
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#15
Nicely done Mike, I often wondered what that place looked like when the choo-choo was rollin thru.
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So I guess there's no hose testing on the ramp then huh? <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Smile' />
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[quote name='Bklyn Phil' date='04 October 2009 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1254666026' post='340752']

Mike - Great shots!



Doesn't the railroad right-of-way extend 100 feet either side of the track centerline? Was the fire station built on RR ROW?



Phil, Bklyn.

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Phil, the centerline of a railroad right of way does not depend upon the location of the tracks. There are various ways to determine the centerline depending on the railroad, but it is possible that the tracks could be laid anywhere within the ROW. Plus, most railroads do not have a ROW that is over 100' wide.
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#18
Our fire station is only about 100 yards from the railroad tracks. I will have to get a pic but there are a lot of trees in the way covering the tracks, can't get a good view of the train but I will try.
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#19
The tracks parallel Railroad Ave, in Boykins, Va, and are maybe 75 feet from the front of the station. The tracks also bisect the town, and the possibility of a train blocking the tracks and delaying response has been an issue of discussion for decades.



I'll have to grab a couple of pics next time I'm down that way.
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[quote name='Jamie' date='03 October 2009 - 10:19 PM' timestamp='1254621592' post='340702']

I have never seen that before. It's amazing the dept put up with that location for so long. How long has the station been there?



Worst case scenario a train is going by and goes into emergency while still blocking the apron.

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This is not the CSX or NS or UP or BNSF mainline, just a backcountry shortline that hauls 1 commodity; GLASS Sand, so no hazmat.

RR was built in 1918 to Gore, extended to Wardensville,WV in 1921 to haul out timber.Abandoned back to Gore by 1944 after timber played out. A sand/silica quarry became the main industry, there was only 1 train a WEEK until 1978, when the quarry was bought by Unisil,Inc., and the RR was upgraded to be capable of heavier loads/engines.

The VFC was built in 1957, obviously they were not concerned with the RR's 1 train/week then. The VFC has plans for a new station, but it will probably be on the almost 10 acres they own there.

The twice-daily trains are seldom more than 15-20 cars since 2 locos can only haul that many over the 3% grades on the line.

Mike, you should put up another photo of Gainesboro where the original station is about 20' from the tracks?!
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