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Hahn...post them if you got them.
[quote name='Kris' date='28 October 2009 - 12:45 AM' timestamp='1256703956' post='344944']

I am looking for more information on the following unit. This is X-Pond Hill - NEE-Wilkes Barre Twp, PA - E-2.



Built 1/1976

Serial #HCP126107620

GPM 1000 (?)

GWT 500 (?)



I really would like to find pics of this unit when it first went in service or from its first few years in service. The Hahn factory PIC would be awesome.



I am really interested in getting four questions answered.



#1: Was the porta tank original equipment or did it have hard suction hose trays?

#2: Was the original siren a Q2B or was that added at a later date? If added later what was the original siren?

#3: What types of lights was it originally equiped with (By the hose reel - missing in this photo but can be found on either of the two links below.)

#4: What brand of paint did Hahn use? I would like to color match it, I have the code but need to original mfg name.



I took this PIC of the unit on the day we purchased it. Sorry for the quality but due to a flat tire it was not able to be moved. It is in running condition and only has the flat tire to be repaired. She will head west in the spring and be painted into fresh orange & white.



http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/inde...st&p=59360



http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/inde...st&p=12111



Thanks,



Kris

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kris if i remember it correctly it did have 2 hard tubes on it where the air pack bags were added in theit place later on, the q is off the ashley american lafrance, originally it had the chrome federal g on it. where is it going to?????



thanks

TOM B
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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Here's my shot of it, taken about 1990.


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Tom & Dave thanks for the quick reply's.



I saw the yellow bags and assumed it had a port a tank, I never realized it was for air packs.



The truck is going to be a show truck now; she is coming to Michigan May 1st. She will join our 56 International Howe X-Mocanaqua, PA. The 56 will get a frame off restoration and this will be our play toy until she is done. More than likely we will repaint & fix body issues in the spring but for the most part no other work is needed right now. Once the 56 is completed perhaps I can convince my brother and dad to do a frame off on her as well. I am very much into completely overhauling trucks where they are more into mechanical and exterior appearance of the classics.



Now I just need to find room to park the X-Detroit American LaFrance TDA my brother still wants to purchase, and I have a 56 Cadillac Superior ambulance I want to purchase.



Thanks again,



Kris
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[quote name='Kris' date='29 October 2009 - 12:35 AM' timestamp='1256789714' post='345091']

Tom & Dave thanks for the quick reply's.



I saw the yellow bags and assumed it had a port a tank, I never realized it was for air packs.



The truck is going to be a show truck now; she is coming to Michigan May 1st. She will join our 56 International Howe X-Mocanaqua, PA. The 56 will get a frame off restoration and this will be our play toy until she is done. More than likely we will repaint & fix body issues in the spring but for the most part no other work is needed right now. Once the 56 is completed perhaps I can convince my brother and dad to do a frame off on her as well. I am very much into completely overhauling trucks where they are more into mechanical and exterior appearance of the classics.



Now I just need to find room to park the X-Detroit American LaFrance TDA my brother still wants to purchase, and I have a 56 Cadillac Superior ambulance I want to purchase.



Thanks again,



Kris

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oh last i saw the ex moc piece it was in a yard on pond hill road in pond hill i hope you will post piks of the 56 too & the hahn when completed!!!



thanks

TOM B
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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Tom,



The 56 "Monica" is still there, the trucking company wants to wait until May 1st to pick her up. Since they are giving me one hell of a discount whatever they want is fine with me. We were out there last week getting a good cover on her for winter.



We purchased her in 1999 and parked her on my uncles property (Pond Hill) until we had all the funds to do the restoration properly. Unfourtanetly the old cover was lost in a bad storm, the good thing is besides more surface rust, there is no rust thru that was not there when we purchased her.



From talking to guys that worked on her mechanically the pump may need to be replaced. It was frozen and welded at least twice. But since we plan on doing a total frame off this is not much of a problem for me. When I get both rigs back here in the spring I will start threads for them in the memebers restoration area with plenty of PIC's. Perhaps I'll start a thread before then with current PIC's.



Kris
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[quote name='Kris' date='29 October 2009 - 09:40 AM' timestamp='1256822421' post='345102']

Tom,



The 56 "Monica" is still there, the trucking company wants to wait until May 1st to pick her up. Since they are giving me one hell of a discount whatever they want is fine with me. We were out there last week getting a good cover on her for winter.



We purchased her in 1999 and parked her on my uncles property (Pond Hill) until we had all the funds to do the restoration properly. Unfourtanetly the old cover was lost in a bad storm, the good thing is besides more surface rust, there is no rust thru that was not there when we purchased her.



From talking to guys that worked on her mechanically the pump may need to be replaced. It was frozen and welded at least twice. But since we plan on doing a total frame off this is not much of a problem for me. When I get both rigs back here in the spring I will start threads for them in the memebers restoration area with plenty of PIC's. Perhaps I'll start a thread before then with current PIC's.



Kris

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i'd appreciate that Kris, my wards are in members rest projects, which pump was frozen on the int or hahn??? i have an older pic of 56 in a parade in 70's
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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one good thing tom atleast now it was saved from going to spencer's.
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[quote name='Joe Osciak' date='04 November 2007 - 09:43 PM' timestamp='1194225819' post='161012']

Clifthon Heights Engine 91 1979 HAHN

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Originally resided with Trafford, Westmoreland County, PA after Clifton Heights

Now at the Westmoreland County Community College Public Safety Training Center

Here is a shot of it at Trafford



[Image: 676525-R1-09-10A_010.jpg]
Hardy, William C

Larimer VFD, Westmoreland County Station 1

Westinghouse Waltz Mill VFB, Westmoreland County Station 116
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[quote name='wardengine' date='29 October 2009 - 12:24 PM' timestamp='1256832296' post='345107']

i'd appreciate that Kris, my wards are in members rest projects, which pump was frozen on the int or hahn??? i have an older pic of 56 in a parade in 70's

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The pump on the 56 international is the one that has problems. (I would love to see the parade pic of her.)



The Hahn is in amazing shape at least in my mind. She needs some clean up and a repaint but not much else really. With yours and Dave's info we will probably change out the siren and add hose troughs. Oh yeah I need to find a bell for her. She has a flat tire which will be fixed, needs new batteries, and the tank has a leak but only when you fill it to capacity. We will probably fix the tank once we get her back to Michigan. But otherwise for now at least she will be parade ready quickly. Best of all Michigan has few Hahn's and even fewer Orange & white apparatus so we should gain lots of attention with her.



[quote name='theunknowncomic' date='29 October 2009 - 01:02 PM' timestamp='1256834555' post='345110']

one good thing tom atleast now it was saved from going to spencer's.

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You are very right; when I was out there I saw the green or lime colored Ford nice looking truck. But ever since we purchased Moc's rig from them the prices they wanted for used trucks went thru the roof. Plus it seemed to me that they were stripping them of parts and selling those separately, something I despise to see done with a rig that can be saved.



Kris
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[quote name='Kris' date='29 October 2009 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1256867813' post='345182']

The pump on the 56 international is the one that has problems. (I would love to see the parade pic of her.)



The Hahn is in amazing shape at least in my mind. She needs some clean up and a repaint but not much else really. With yours and Dave's info we will probably change out the siren and add hose troughs. Oh yeah I need to find a bell for her. She has a flat tire which will be fixed, needs new batteries, and the tank has a leak but only when you fill it to capacity. We will probably fix the tank once we get her back to Michigan. But otherwise for now at least she will be parade ready quickly. Best of all Michigan has few Hahn's and even fewer Orange & white apparatus so we should gain lots of attention with her.







You are very right; when I was out there I saw the green or lime colored Ford nice looking truck. But ever since we purchased Moc's rig from them the prices they wanted for used trucks went thru the roof. Plus it seemed to me that they were stripping them of parts and selling those separately, something I despise to see done with a rig that can be saved.



Kris

[/quote]that green ford you are referring to was from bloomsburg,pa
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[quote name='LarimeSta1' date='29 October 2009 - 05:59 PM' timestamp='1256852358' post='345159']

Originally resided with Trafford, Westmoreland County, PA after Clifton Heights

Now at the Westmoreland County Community College Public Safety Training Center

Here is a shot of it at Trafford



[Image: 676525-R1-09-10A_010.jpg]

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Bill,



Thanks for that. Never knew where it went after it left Clifton Heights. This is what I have on this rg.



Bruce



1979 Hahn 84, canopy cab, 1500/500, model HCP-15, delvd 2-12-79 8V71 Detroit diesel, 350HP, automatic, tank replaced in 1995 with poly tank, Power Inverter, sold to Northeast Fire Apparatus in 2000.
Bruce W. Anderson

Historian

Southeastern PA Region
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[quote name='Kris' date='29 October 2009 - 10:16 PM' timestamp='1256867813' post='345182']

The pump on the 56 international is the one that has problems. (I would love to see the parade pic of her.)



The Hahn is in amazing shape at least in my mind. She needs some clean up and a repaint but not much else really. With yours and Dave's info we will probably change out the siren and add hose troughs. Oh yeah I need to find a bell for her. She has a flat tire which will be fixed, needs new batteries, and the tank has a leak but only when you fill it to capacity. We will probably fix the tank once we get her back to Michigan. But otherwise for now at least she will be parade ready quickly. Best of all Michigan has few Hahn's and even fewer Orange & white apparatus so we should gain lots of attention with her.







You are very right; when I was out there I saw the green or lime colored Ford nice looking truck. But ever since we purchased Moc's rig from them the prices they wanted for used trucks went thru the roof. Plus it seemed to me that they were stripping them of parts and selling those separately, something I despise to see done with a rig that can be saved.



Kris

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kris ask & you shal receive!!!!



   





probab;y around 1975ish, unfortunately we all used to tape our block party advertisements to the apparatus(compartment doors)



TOM B
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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[quote name='BA000049' date='30 October 2009 - 07:24 AM' timestamp='1256900675' post='345223']

Bill,



Thanks for that. Never knew where it went after it left Clifton Heights. This is what I have on this rg.



Bruce



1979 Hahn 84, canopy cab, 1500/500, model HCP-15, delvd 2-12-79 8V71 Detroit diesel, 350HP, automatic, tank replaced in 1995 with poly tank, Power Inverter, sold to Northeast Fire Apparatus in 2000.

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<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Thumbsup' /> Thanks for the information. I figured you would like it!



Here are some dates:



2001-2008 Trafford, Westmoreland County, PA Engine 86-2

Sat outside from mid 2008-mid 2009

2009 Purchased for $500.00 by the Westmoreland County Community College Public Safety Training Center in Smithton, PA
Hardy, William C

Larimer VFD, Westmoreland County Station 1

Westinghouse Waltz Mill VFB, Westmoreland County Station 116
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Bill,



Thanks for the dates - that helps alot.



Would you happen to have a shot of it at the community college ?



Many thanks,



Bruce
Bruce W. Anderson

Historian

Southeastern PA Region
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[quote name='BA000049' date='31 October 2009 - 07:01 AM' timestamp='1256985717' post='345380']

Bill,



Thanks for the dates - that helps alot.



Would you happen to have a shot of it at the community college ?



Many thanks,



Bruce

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I'll try tomorrow; the weather should be good. Looks the same minus the lettering.



Bill
Hardy, William C

Larimer VFD, Westmoreland County Station 1

Westinghouse Waltz Mill VFB, Westmoreland County Station 116
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Here is a bad cell phone pic of Dale City's 73 Hahn which has returned from being refurbed. The unit came out great and I will get better pics of it soon.


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East Greenbush,Ny

1987 Hahn

1250/500

Ron Bogardus photo

Eng-42-11-3


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East Greenbush,Ny

1987 Hahn

1250/500

Eng-42-11-6

Ron Bogardus photo


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Another unidentified Hahn, Branford CT

Does anyone have any information on this vehicle?

Bob Lloyd collection
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Old E101 from the Funkstown Volunteer Fire Department 1987 Hahn


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