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[goon16]

[sup]nswesp you still have that pic of 4 truck [/sup]

[ff168577]

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Engine 6

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6 Engine is pretty beat up. Lots of rust around the wheel wells. Wow.

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[sup]nswesp you still have that pic of 4 truck [/sup]

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Yeh somewhere, should be a copy of it in the quarters too

[b9208]

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Satellite 5



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Is that the new six inch hose on the satellite? If so, any idea of new appliances or fittings they are using with it?

(and I though five inch was a joy to drain and pack...wow)

Gary

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Anyone know what FSD is?

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Possibly"Fleet Service Division". That's what it stand for in the NYPD.

[countryboy88]

I am going to asked a question that has probably already been asked but what makes a Satellite rig special?. I know that they are meant for high-rise buildings but are they different from a normal engine?.

[b9208]

[quote name='countryboy88' timestamp='1326575052' post='471249']

I am going to asked a question that has probably already been asked but what makes a Satellite rig special?. I know that they are meant for high-rise buildings but are they different from a normal engine?.

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The original three satellites back in the 60's were part of the original Super Pumper System, along with the Super Pumper itself and the Super Tender. The satellites carried additional 4.5 inch hose and appliances, a portable manifold and had a large master stream, but no pump - they were truly hose wagons. They were remote from the SP so that they could get in position and get lines down before the arrival of the SP and ST. The downside of the original awesomeness of the SPS was that when the SP was out of service, the whole system was done except for the boats or regular engines.



When the SPS was taken out of service, the satellites became part of the Maxi-Water system, pairing a satellite with a 2000 GPM pumper. I think there were six or seven at that time, each representing a portion of the water that was available from the former SPS. If one pumper went OOS, only 1/6th of the system was lost. The 2000 GPM pumpers and satellites were intended to get water from a different main than the initial companies, supplementing the water supply available. The satellites would use their mainfolds to distribute water to engines at the scene. The satellites could also lay in from the boats or engines at draft. At some point the 4.5 I think switched to 5", and now I remember reading that a switch to 6" was in the works to better utilize supply from the marine units and the new Hydrosub system. The satellites still carry a manifold, a large apparatus master stream, and foam concentrate of various types in five gallon cans. They are not equipped with a pump - they rely on their companion 2000 gpm engine. (Which is less specialized with the new 2000 gpm rigs entering general service). One satellite and its engine is assigned on every second or third alarm I believe...

Corrections welcomed...

Gary

[countryboy88]

Thanks for the info Gary. I knew that they were part of the Super Pumper/Tender system but not the rest..

[goon16]

Alright thanks ill try to look for it in the house





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Yeh somewhere, should be a copy of it in the quarters too

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[CCusson15]

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High Rise Unit 1

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Can anyone tell me what that tubular thing is on the rear-left of the High-Rise unit? It looks like a monster version of a home gutter-cleaner.

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Can anyone tell me what that tubular thing is on the rear-left of the High-Rise unit? It looks like a monster version of a home gutter-cleaner.

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I am guessing it is their hi-rise nozzle. It was designed for use when conditions on the fire floor are untenable, they can go to the window directly below the fire apartment and raise it into the window of the fire apartment and knock the fire down.

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I am guessing it is their hi-rise nozzle. It was designed for use when conditions on the fire floor are untenable, they can go to the window directly below the fire apartment and raise it into the window of the fire apartment and knock the fire down.

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That is what it is.



[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz3d7tmZa3Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz3d7tmZa3Y[/url]



Monday, September 13, 2010 NYU-Poly and NIST collected data during a week of test fires FDNY conducted on Governors Island to study techniques to control wind-driven high-rise fires. As 30 mph winds feeding a fire in a Manhattan high-rise apartment building threatened to create the unpredictable, fast-moving “blowtorch” effect that has killed far too many members of the Fire Department of New York (FDNY), firefighters fought back with new tactics researchers at Polytechnic Institute of NYU helped to develop and implement.





Firefighters positioned on the floor above the fire deployed a fire curtain over the side of the building to cover the window that was letting in the wind. Wind acts as jet fuel in such fires. Firefighters stationed on the floor below the fire fed a specially-designed nozzle — called a high-rise nozzle — into a window on the fire floor to blast water on the flames. And in the stairwells, firefighters rapidly cleared deadly smoke and carbon monoxide from the building with positive pressure ventilation (PPV) fans. That potentially-fatal fire occurred on November 13, 2009, nearly two years into a project between NYU-Poly, FDNY, and the National Institute of Standards and Technology that has forever changed the way wind-driven high-rise fires are fought in this city, and soon, in cities across the nation.





The American Society of Mechanical Engineers featured the project as the cover story in the July 2010 issue of its journal, Mechanical Engineering. In contrast to the decades it can take for many technologies to move from the laboratory into accepted practice, the speed with which the research is changing firefighting is almost unprecedented. High-rise nozzles, fire curtains, and PPV fans are now among FDNY’s firefighting arsenal, courtesy of a $1 million grant from the Department of Homeland Security that funded NYU-Poly’s research, and a subsequent grant that helped FDNY to purchase the equipment.





The equipment and techniques employed in the November 2009 fire had been postulated to lessen the impact of wind-driven high-rise fires, but hard data and analysis were needed to understand how and why the techniques worked, and to convince administrative decision-makers and firefighters to adopt them. Dr. Sunil Kumar, graduate dean and associate provost, and a professor of mechanical engineering, is the principal investigator for NYU-Poly on the grant, which received $850,000 in follow-up funding in June. Dr. Richard Elliot Wener, an NYU-Poly professor of environmental psychology, is the Co-PI on the follow-up grant. Dr. Kumar, an expert on thermal heat transfer and fluid mechanics, says that he has never seen research move from the lab to the real world so quickly. “It’s really remarkable how the FDNY was empowered by our findings and fast-tracked implementation of the tactics across its squads.”





Many FDNY trucks currently carry high-rise nozzles, nearly all FDNY trucks carry fire curtains, and 14 truck companies and two special high-rise units are equipped with PPV fans. Moreover, the protocols that the research helped to cement in FDNY’s operating procedure are now part of the firefighter lexicon. Eleven thousand FDNY firefighters have been trained on the ground in the new tactics. “You hear them talking about them on the radio transmissions on the way to a call,” says Lt. John Ceriello of FDNY’s Squad Company 252. “They’ll say, ‘Do you want me to bring up the fire curtain?’ That’s something you never would’ve heard them say before.” The lieutenant says that as fires get more dangerous — he cites the proliferation of inexpensive furniture that burns easily as one reason for the increased severity — fire departments will rely on research such as NYU-Poly’s to understand how to fight better and keep firefighters safe. “We call it ‘science meets the street.’ We want to bring science into what we’re doing to make sure that it’s correct."





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[ACPD227]

Here is a new proto type high rise set up being tested in october 2010 by FDNY

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Caught the tail end of an interesting combo of Engine 26 and Ladder 24, both Ferraras at a false alarm call.

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FDNY Ambulance 278

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Ladder 4

[Dickey]

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Ladder 4

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I love the use of the tuct tape to label the fast pack compartment. Up here in the northwoods we call that "Minnesota Chrome"

[R1SmokeEater]

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I love the use of the tuct tape to label the fast pack compartment. Up here in the northwoods we call that "Minnesota Chrome"

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4-Truck has had a spare for a while now, the "4" is duct tape too! They are due to receive their Ferrara rear mount very soon, I'm sure there will be many pix of that, since 54/4 is amongst the most photo'd companies in NY due to being in the Midtown tourist Mecca!