[quote name='taurudak' post='131388' date='Jul 20 2007, 20:35 ']You know, Ron and Tillerman and anyone else on here, I want to say so much about these "Elite" things, but I guess only time will tell. Being a Montgomery County Firefighter, it certainly sounds like Tillerman isn't real happy with them, but then it also sounds like you don't apparently like E-Ones or Sutphens either!!! I think the truth of the matter is that nothing is made like it used to be. And with Elite, being a relatively new kid on the block, only time will tell if they can handle the load. I know so many people on here seem to love Pierce, but the truth there is that they don't really do a great job either! Twice today, Anne Arundel County MD's only Pierce Engine, Eng 321 (and I'm not talking about volunteer Pierces), had to go to the shop for repairs. In major metropolitan and even "suburban" communities today, we run all of these pieces, no matter who makes them, into the ground! How can anyone really judge which is the better apparatus?
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry, but with all the **** I see on here about which is the better apparatus, I think we really need to look at the whole big picture. If you are in a department that r200-300 calls a year, and there are many of them in this great country of ours, yes, you expect your Pierce or E\-One or Sutphen or Seagrave or KME or even Elite to hold up and perform well. But when you run the piece into the ground on all the **** calls we run today, what do you expect? Just my two cents, and yes I fully expect to be blasted on here!!! So be it from an old ******* who many of you probably think doesn't know any better.
Joe Dooley[/quote]
Joe,
That was a satirical remark. I think we should all know that there is no such thing as a 30 day money back guarantee on a fire rig. There are several features I like on this rig, IE: the lower rear hose beds, the ladder to get up to the top of the rig, rather then the small hinged steps that are on most rigs. Marshall summed it up very nicely. In an urban, suburban, and rural jurisdiction, no one size fits all. Each rig should be designed to fit the responses it will attend. I hope that the first couple of rigs delivered and used will be evaluated for design and/or spec problems, and corrected over the 24 month period that the rigs are produced.
Ron
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry, but with all the **** I see on here about which is the better apparatus, I think we really need to look at the whole big picture. If you are in a department that r200-300 calls a year, and there are many of them in this great country of ours, yes, you expect your Pierce or E\-One or Sutphen or Seagrave or KME or even Elite to hold up and perform well. But when you run the piece into the ground on all the **** calls we run today, what do you expect? Just my two cents, and yes I fully expect to be blasted on here!!! So be it from an old ******* who many of you probably think doesn't know any better.
Joe Dooley[/quote]
Joe,
That was a satirical remark. I think we should all know that there is no such thing as a 30 day money back guarantee on a fire rig. There are several features I like on this rig, IE: the lower rear hose beds, the ladder to get up to the top of the rig, rather then the small hinged steps that are on most rigs. Marshall summed it up very nicely. In an urban, suburban, and rural jurisdiction, no one size fits all. Each rig should be designed to fit the responses it will attend. I hope that the first couple of rigs delivered and used will be evaluated for design and/or spec problems, and corrected over the 24 month period that the rigs are produced.
Ron
The Villages Department of Public Safety
The Villages, Florida
The Villages, Florida
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