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Nate a TDA isn't just for tight urban streets it's just an advantage of one. Also Ridgefield, Belmont, Stonebridge areas are a bit tight and Tower/Truck Companies have to get creative and there are many more developments with the "Town Center" layout are coming.
TDA's can carry more equipment, ground ladders, and a Quiller version the pump and tank do not take away from compartment space. They are also easier and cheaper to keep for 20 years (Re-tractor) than a re-chassis of a straight truck. Of course the lenght and need for 2 opreators make them a bit challenging.
I'm sure roads in Bedford, Leesburg, and So. Maryland can make Purcell Rd. look like I95. Plus as a kid I saw Truck 12 navigate roads like Davis Ford, Smoketown, Hoadly, and Telegraph with ease.
All trucks/towers have advantages and disadvantages but true data and testing is the only way to figure that out. Kids can dream but proof is always in the pudding.
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Jr - I appreciate your response, which certainly featured some valid points… BUT is there really THAT much of an operational edge/criteria to warrant purchasing a Tiller for a response district that is predominantly a suburban bedroom community? That's what I was trying to say, but I guess Thursday's Tryptophan-laden turkey binge obscured my ability to articulate my core point <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
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Sr definitely has some very valid points. As an example, years ago (LONG before Fairfax County BLEW UP population-wise) Tiller Ladders (and Towers) were everywhere.
Another interesting factoid is that the first FAIRFAX COUNTY purchased Truck was a mid-mount (non-Tiler) Ladder! What's also interesting (and further validates Sr's statement) is that even when Prince William was a FAR more rural jurisdiction you had Tiller Ladders at 2/12 and 11, but not a single one now - which highlights the functional improvements made in rear--mount straight sticks.
Although I greatly commend the PWC Volunteer Departments who have been conductingin-house Training/Certification Courses, I have a feeling the County may want ti be in complete control of instructing such a specialized course.
Excellent discussion! Be safe and happy holidays!
Nate a TDA isn't just for tight urban streets it's just an advantage of one. Also Ridgefield, Belmont, Stonebridge areas are a bit tight and Tower/Truck Companies have to get creative and there are many more developments with the "Town Center" layout are coming.
TDA's can carry more equipment, ground ladders, and a Quiller version the pump and tank do not take away from compartment space. They are also easier and cheaper to keep for 20 years (Re-tractor) than a re-chassis of a straight truck. Of course the lenght and need for 2 opreators make them a bit challenging.
I'm sure roads in Bedford, Leesburg, and So. Maryland can make Purcell Rd. look like I95. Plus as a kid I saw Truck 12 navigate roads like Davis Ford, Smoketown, Hoadly, and Telegraph with ease.
All trucks/towers have advantages and disadvantages but true data and testing is the only way to figure that out. Kids can dream but proof is always in the pudding.
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Jr - I appreciate your response, which certainly featured some valid points… BUT is there really THAT much of an operational edge/criteria to warrant purchasing a Tiller for a response district that is predominantly a suburban bedroom community? That's what I was trying to say, but I guess Thursday's Tryptophan-laden turkey binge obscured my ability to articulate my core point <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='
' />Sr definitely has some very valid points. As an example, years ago (LONG before Fairfax County BLEW UP population-wise) Tiller Ladders (and Towers) were everywhere.
Another interesting factoid is that the first FAIRFAX COUNTY purchased Truck was a mid-mount (non-Tiler) Ladder! What's also interesting (and further validates Sr's statement) is that even when Prince William was a FAR more rural jurisdiction you had Tiller Ladders at 2/12 and 11, but not a single one now - which highlights the functional improvements made in rear--mount straight sticks.
Although I greatly commend the PWC Volunteer Departments who have been conductingin-house Training/Certification Courses, I have a feeling the County may want ti be in complete control of instructing such a specialized course.
Excellent discussion! Be safe and happy holidays!
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