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I have to ask...and its not being satirical....but is anyone really happy with their new rigs? I read where the FDNY union head (I think) said Seagraves were "jalopies"....if you look on the DCFD and the Richmond thread their pierces are called shop queens.....hearing different complaints about KME but places like LA County continue to but them in droves...The fellas in Mass. where the building collapsed onto their KME (and it stayed up) were likely pretty happy it had almost twice the tensile strength of an aluminum ladder....A story on firehouse showed a Sutphen's cable snapped and injured 4 people on one of their platforms....Up north they had an RK bucket tip when extended.......Boston has gone from (recent modern history) E\-One to Pierce to Eone and now to KME.....Toronto apparently has had multiple cracks in the H frame outriggers on their smeals......Crimson? havent heard a lot.....
I know all the electronic sensors are mandatory but I miss the old days -give me an old girl that went up and came down in sleet and snow and if it faltered you taped stuff together with bandaids and duct tape and dammit it worked...I know this may be a hornet's nest...So I ask- no matter who you buy from, do you just "inherit" a different set of problems?
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I agree to a certain extent, but we had a very open mind when we got our new engine, we were coming out of a 1999 Freightliner with about 170k miles, so anything would have been an improvement. Our engine was OOS in 2010 46% of the time.
We got our new aerial in 2007 replacing a 1994 of the same type. I still LOVE that truck...even with it's quirks. All the electronics are problematic for everyone...but you can ask anyone in my department what brand they like best and want to drive and ride on...starts with an "S".
I have to ask...and its not being satirical....but is anyone really happy with their new rigs? I read where the FDNY union head (I think) said Seagraves were "jalopies"....if you look on the DCFD and the Richmond thread their pierces are called shop queens.....hearing different complaints about KME but places like LA County continue to but them in droves...The fellas in Mass. where the building collapsed onto their KME (and it stayed up) were likely pretty happy it had almost twice the tensile strength of an aluminum ladder....A story on firehouse showed a Sutphen's cable snapped and injured 4 people on one of their platforms....Up north they had an RK bucket tip when extended.......Boston has gone from (recent modern history) E\-One to Pierce to Eone and now to KME.....Toronto apparently has had multiple cracks in the H frame outriggers on their smeals......Crimson? havent heard a lot.....
I know all the electronic sensors are mandatory but I miss the old days -give me an old girl that went up and came down in sleet and snow and if it faltered you taped stuff together with bandaids and duct tape and dammit it worked...I know this may be a hornet's nest...So I ask- no matter who you buy from, do you just "inherit" a different set of problems?
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I agree to a certain extent, but we had a very open mind when we got our new engine, we were coming out of a 1999 Freightliner with about 170k miles, so anything would have been an improvement. Our engine was OOS in 2010 46% of the time.
We got our new aerial in 2007 replacing a 1994 of the same type. I still LOVE that truck...even with it's quirks. All the electronics are problematic for everyone...but you can ask anyone in my department what brand they like best and want to drive and ride on...starts with an "S".
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