[quote name='danger' date='17 February 2010 - 05:19 PM' timestamp='1266454798' post='364678']
Can you enlighten me again the roles of the EST and the patrols and what the differences are?
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Even though they look the same both are very quite diffirent
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Photo by Monrovia1
EST 94 EST stands for Emergency Support Team the EST concept was thought of by Current LACo Chief Freeman. The original EST's were assigned to 18's, 42's, 59's, 85's, 94's, 129's 145's. EST 18 & 42 have NEVER been staffed. They are used as reserve est's when the others go down for mechanical reasons. The others are staffed with two firefighters. With some changes of apparatus up in the Antelope Valley EST 129 has now become EST 33. The EST's were originally placed at a four man engine company station. The Dept created an additional FF post position at these stations to give them a total of 5 personnel. The engine now became a 3 man engine & the est had 2 ff's.
The EST's were in an area that predominently had 3 man engine companies & they responded to augment that engines manpower. It was an attempt to add man power at a cheaper price rather than just putting a 4th FF on the 3 man Engines. The EST's respond only with certain stations. This is referred to as "The WHEEL" . The Wheel for each station encompasses about 6-8 stations. Example, EST59 responded with 59's, 96's, 15's, 49's, 28's & 91's (at the time, all were 3 man engines with the exception of E15). EST's are recommended on certain types of calls, ones that require man power (structures, hazmats, over the sides, etc). Medicals & single engine responses don't require an EST, this is why you here them add themselves to responses.
Just a little about that. Some stations where EST's are housed have new firefighters. Back in the begining of the EST's, the Captains at these stations theory was, "If I have to go on a Sick person at 2am, there is no way my 2 boot firefighters are going to stay in bed while I am gone. They are going with me." On the other side, there are a few EST stations that don't have boots & these guys don't ever add themselves to medical calls. Unless there brush in the first in district of a station in the area the EST covers EST's will not respond on Brush responses. Today there are EST units at 85, 33, 145, 94 Thanks to a board member of Lacountyfire.com whos previous posting helped explain this.
![[Image: IMG_5228_edited.jpg]](http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h155/Seagrave7/LA%20County%20Fire/Battalion%2019/IMG_5228_edited.jpg)
Patrol 120 Photo by Monrovia1.
A Patrol is used in station's that have large brush area's in there first in districts Patrols are housed at 82, 44, 97, 120, 86, 74, 91 just to name a few the Patrol is manned with 1 Firefighter who also serves as the 4th man on the engine comapny and is manned 24/7, They are used for responses such over the sides, assisting with missing and injured hikers as well as patrolling there brush areas.
Can you enlighten me again the roles of the EST and the patrols and what the differences are?
[/quote]
Even though they look the same both are very quite diffirent
Photo by Monrovia1
EST 94 EST stands for Emergency Support Team the EST concept was thought of by Current LACo Chief Freeman. The original EST's were assigned to 18's, 42's, 59's, 85's, 94's, 129's 145's. EST 18 & 42 have NEVER been staffed. They are used as reserve est's when the others go down for mechanical reasons. The others are staffed with two firefighters. With some changes of apparatus up in the Antelope Valley EST 129 has now become EST 33. The EST's were originally placed at a four man engine company station. The Dept created an additional FF post position at these stations to give them a total of 5 personnel. The engine now became a 3 man engine & the est had 2 ff's.
The EST's were in an area that predominently had 3 man engine companies & they responded to augment that engines manpower. It was an attempt to add man power at a cheaper price rather than just putting a 4th FF on the 3 man Engines. The EST's respond only with certain stations. This is referred to as "The WHEEL" . The Wheel for each station encompasses about 6-8 stations. Example, EST59 responded with 59's, 96's, 15's, 49's, 28's & 91's (at the time, all were 3 man engines with the exception of E15). EST's are recommended on certain types of calls, ones that require man power (structures, hazmats, over the sides, etc). Medicals & single engine responses don't require an EST, this is why you here them add themselves to responses.
Just a little about that. Some stations where EST's are housed have new firefighters. Back in the begining of the EST's, the Captains at these stations theory was, "If I have to go on a Sick person at 2am, there is no way my 2 boot firefighters are going to stay in bed while I am gone. They are going with me." On the other side, there are a few EST stations that don't have boots & these guys don't ever add themselves to medical calls. Unless there brush in the first in district of a station in the area the EST covers EST's will not respond on Brush responses. Today there are EST units at 85, 33, 145, 94 Thanks to a board member of Lacountyfire.com whos previous posting helped explain this.
Patrol 120 Photo by Monrovia1.
A Patrol is used in station's that have large brush area's in there first in districts Patrols are housed at 82, 44, 97, 120, 86, 74, 91 just to name a few the Patrol is manned with 1 Firefighter who also serves as the 4th man on the engine comapny and is manned 24/7, They are used for responses such over the sides, assisting with missing and injured hikers as well as patrolling there brush areas.
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