[quote name='taurudak' post='131388' date='Jul 20 2007, 19:35 ']You know, Ron and Tillerman and anyone else on here, I want to say so much about these "Elite" things, but I guess only time will tell. Being a Montgomery County Firefighter, it certainly sounds like Tillerman isn't real happy with them, but then it also sounds like you don't apparently like E-Ones or Sutphens either!!! I think the truth of the matter is that nothing is made like it used to be. And with Elite, being a relatively new kid on the block, only time will tell if they can handle the load. I know so many people on here seem to love Pierce, but the truth there is that they don't really do a great job either! Twice today, Anne Arundel County MD's only Pierce Engine, Eng 321 (and I'm not talking about volunteer Pierces), had to go to the shop for repairs. In major metropolitan and even "suburban" communities today, we run all of these pieces, no matter who makes them, into the ground! How can anyone really judge which is the better apparatus?
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry, but with all the **** I see on here about which is the better apparatus, I think we really need to look at the whole big picture. If you are in a department that runs 200-300 calls a year, and there are many of them in this great country of ours, yes, you expect your Pierce or E\-One or Sutphen or Seagrave or KME or even Elite to hold up and perform well. But when you run the piece into the ground on all the **** calls we run today, what do you expect? Just my two cents, and yes I fully expect to be blasted on here!!! So be it from an old ******* who many of you probably think doesn't know any better.
Joe Dooley[/quote]
Joe has a good point. I really bit my tongue and didn't comment, because there are some good ideas on the rig's design, in my opinion. I'm actually kind of glad to see Elite didn't go under, as was rumored to be happening, simply because I don't want to see departments or workers lose out. Let's hope these rigs hold up for the department's sake, because no one wants a rig that doesn't function.
On a positive note, I really like the all red paint, the arrow sticks on the upper body on the sides and the ladder on the officer's side. I perused the press release real quick, what isn't to spec on the rig? I notice no Q siren, but I didn't take time to really thoroughly check.
--Joel
If I have offended anyone, I am truly sorry, but with all the **** I see on here about which is the better apparatus, I think we really need to look at the whole big picture. If you are in a department that runs 200-300 calls a year, and there are many of them in this great country of ours, yes, you expect your Pierce or E\-One or Sutphen or Seagrave or KME or even Elite to hold up and perform well. But when you run the piece into the ground on all the **** calls we run today, what do you expect? Just my two cents, and yes I fully expect to be blasted on here!!! So be it from an old ******* who many of you probably think doesn't know any better.
Joe Dooley[/quote]
Joe has a good point. I really bit my tongue and didn't comment, because there are some good ideas on the rig's design, in my opinion. I'm actually kind of glad to see Elite didn't go under, as was rumored to be happening, simply because I don't want to see departments or workers lose out. Let's hope these rigs hold up for the department's sake, because no one wants a rig that doesn't function.
On a positive note, I really like the all red paint, the arrow sticks on the upper body on the sides and the ladder on the officer's side. I perused the press release real quick, what isn't to spec on the rig? I notice no Q siren, but I didn't take time to really thoroughly check.
--Joel
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