Hose beds/loads

[Truckman]

Richmond, VA



All are Truckman Photos



This is a 1978 American LaFrance, 1500/500 Pumper, ran as Wagon 1

of a two piece company in a high value district



The two larger beds, carried 800Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a supply line, packed for a forward lay



The left hose trough carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose line with a wye connected



The right hose trough carried brooms, mops, gas and water key, rakes, shovels



On the rear horizontal bar carried 8 hose tools (straps)



This rig has two crosslay above the pump panel with 150Ft each of 1-1/2” hose



The rear step compartments were transverse









   









This is a 1965 Mack, 1000/300 Pumper assigned at the time of the photo as a Reserve

But was originally Engine 14 Pumper



The two large beds carried 700Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a supply line, packed for a forward lay



The two left hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each preconnected



The two right hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each connected to a wye





   

[Truckman]

Richmond, VA



All are Truckman Photos



This is a 1970 Maxim, 1000/500 Pumper, ran as Engine 18



The left large bed, carried 1000Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a secondary supply line, packed for a forward lay



The right large bed, carried 1000FT of 4” large diameter hose as the primary supply line



The left two hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose line each preconneced



The right hose trough carried 150FT of 1-1/2” hose line with wye



High rise hose lines were carried on the left and right side, one under the hard sleeve and the other under the ground ladders



Note – This rig hose load, look real good as it had just been repacked as the pumper had been returned from the shop for tank repair









   







This is a 1962 Mack, 1000/300 Pumper assigned to Squad 2



The two large beds carried 700Ft of 2-1/2” hose as a supply line, packed for a forward lay

Note this hose bed was connected together



The two left hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each preconnected



The two right hose troughs carried 150Ft of 1-1/2” hose each connected to a wye



The box on the rear step was loaded with a Hurst tool and other accessories









   

[Guest]

John,

So if you all needed a 2.5 hand line, did you snag the sections out of the supply bed?

[yvfdfirefighter]

Yorkshire VFD - Wagon 508

[Guest]

John,



Love the old ones. I started with 1200' of 2 1/2 in a horseshoe with a skid on top. You and Steve Loftin

have made me 20yrs pld again.



ppfd,



You've got it figured out. Back in the day there were places where you either used the booster or you used 2 1/2,

not everyone used 1 1/2.

[Guest]

This is probably one of the better threads I've seen...I've become a little obsessed with hose loads! Keep 'em coming! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/luxhello.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[Truckman]

[quote name='ppfd' post='187618' date='Feb 8 2008, 22:30 ']John,

So if you all needed a 2.5 hand line, did you snag the sections out of the supply bed?[/quote]





Well after you had laid out the supply line, then you could pull what ever additional 2-1/2" line off you needed and put a nozzle on it and take it in. If you were going to use the wye, then the driver or some one would pull enough line off to be near the front door or where you were going to make an entrance and the other members would attached the wye after laying it out. Hopefully before the pump operator down the street loaded that 1-1/2 line. The first photo of the AmLaFrance had double 2-1/2" discharges on the rear. Sometime after this photo was taken, any rigs that had this set up was ordered to make up at least one preconnected 2-1/2" lay to either or both rear discharges. I was a Lt at the 21's and had the twin to Wagon 1 as an triple combination pumper and if memory serves me correctly we had one 2-1/2" preconnect and the other discharge had a connection set up for a foam eductor. I will see if I have a photo of that ride and post it later.



Wagonman, I am glad I could make you feel younger and take you back a few years like we

"old" guys had to operate.

[Guest]

[quote name='Truckman' post='187689' date='Feb 9 2008, 12:46 ']Well after you had laid out the supply line, then you could pull what ever additional 2-1/2" line off you needed and put a nozzle on it and take it in. If you were going to use the wye, then the driver or some one would pull enough line off to be near the front door or where you were going to make an entrance and the other members would attached the wye after laying it out.[/quote]

John,



This is exactly what we do - except backwards. We keep the wye and the 1 3/4" hose hooked up and disconnect the wye and attach a nozzle if we want to lead out with the 2 1/2" hose or lay a 2 1/2" supply line with the appropriate adapters.



I will get those other pics up tomorrow when I am back at work.

[hp1530]

LAFD Engine Co



750' 4" and 750' 2 1/2"

[Guest]

[quote name='JFong' post='187767' date='Feb 9 2008, 19:35 ']LAFD Engine Co



750' 4" and 750' 2 1/2"[/quote]



JFong,



Could you show the cross lay beds as well?

[hp1530]

LAFD Crosslay 1.5", 1" and 1.75" hose with 1.5 nozzle

[Guest]

[quote name='JFong' post='187774' date='Feb 9 2008, 20:10 ']LAFD Crosslay 1.5", 1" and 1.75" hose with 1.5 nozzle[/quote]



JFong,



Thanks. Do you know the amounts and if the 1 1/2" is forestry hose?

[hp1530]

[quote name='WAGONMAN' post='187776' date='Feb 9 2008, 17:25 ']JFong,



Thanks. Do you know the amounts and if the 1 1/2" is forestry hose?[/quote]



They carry 400' of the 1.5 and 1.75. Some rigs carry 500 or 600' of the 1" hose depending on their district.

[Guest]

[quote name='JFong' post='187778' date='Feb 9 2008, 20:37 ']They carry 400' of the 1.5 and 1.75. Some rigs carry 500 or 600' of the 1" hose depending on their district.[/quote]



Thanks

[Guest]

[quote name='JFong' post='187778' date='Feb 9 2008, 20:37 ']They carry 400' of the 1.5 and 1.75. Some rigs carry 500 or 600' of the 1" hose depending on their district.[/quote]

Double, sorry

[Guest]

A couple of close ups, as promised:



Front bumper - Short section of 5" supply hose used for front intake. As far as I know, this is the only section in the city used like this. The rest of the companies run with 6" soft suction supply hose. Also has 100' of 1 3/4" hose. Use this as an example of how to NOT set your bumper up. Definately go with seperate trays.









(3) 50' shoulder loads used for standpipe connections.









5" in the right bed, just out of the frame. Center bed - Close up of 750' of 2 1/2" wyes into (2) 150' sections of 1 3/4" hose in the left bed. The first 50' of both lines and the nozzles are budled into a single shoulder load.









From the top - side to side.









From the top - front to back.

[Guest]

Great shots, Loot, now that I see exactly how it is loaded out, it would appear that you can make a real quick stretch, thanks.

[Guest]

John,

Thanks for the explanation!



Lt. Kramer,

Those pictures are great, really helps in explaining the procedure!

[York FF/Chauffeur]

Not the best picture but with a high of 24 degrees today (without the wind) I wasn't going to pull the truck out of the station.



York, ME Engine 4 from L to R 300' 1 3/4" pre con. under that is another 300' of 1 3/4" dead load. Next is 1000' of 4" connected to another 1000' of 5" with a HAV mounted to the step. Next is 300' of 2 1/2" pre con. with another 200' dead load under that. Why so much hose you may ask? This is our 2nd out pump and her primary job is water supply the 1000' of 5" goes first and if needed we have the extra 1000' of 4" ready to continue the lay.







   

[FTLAUD]

Fort Lauderdale's setup is fairly simple. Flat load bed of 1000' of 5" supply line, with 800' of 2-1/2" flat loaded with the male out with a water thief on the end. This is the setup for the 5 new engines delivered in 2005 to E2, E16, E46, E47 and E88. All other engines have an identical setup except with 1500' of supply line, and 3" hose instead of 2-1/2". The setup with the water thief is useful mainly for garden apartment setups and docks, but can be used for any other long hose stretch. The line is stretched off the rear and used in conjuction with the high-rise packs for fire attack. The water thief allows the versatility to use either 2-1/2" or 1-3/4" attack lines off the end of the leader line stretch.



   



The crosslays on all engines are identical with two beds of 200' of 1-3/4" and one bed of 200' of 2-1/2". Usually one of the two 1-3/4" lines has a 7/8" smoothbore, and the other has a breakaway nozzle setup with a 150 gpm @ 50 psi fog nozzle on top of 15/16" smoothbore. The 2-1/2" preconnect has a 1-1/8" smooth bore nozzle.



The loads are identical in that the first 100' is flat loaded, then the four loops are formed across the width of the crosslay bed, and then the remaining hose is loaded on top of the loops. Last step is to fold the loops back into the crosslay bed for organization and so they don't get caught and/or fall out on anything.