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[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' date='08 March 2010 - 06:54 PM' timestamp='1268094869' post='368829']

Cambridge, Rescue Fire Co.

1950 Seagrave 750/500?

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Do you have a picture of the unit that is sitting behind this engine?

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[quote name='gravenut74' date='31 December 2010 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1293843255' post='417713']

Baltimore County did purchase this truck in the mid 1980's because we really didn't have any reserve trucks maybe one or two. From what i was told by some of the older guys it was a real gem. It was always a spare and only lasted a few years.

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I was a member at Woodlawn VFD when this Pirsch was bought from Trenton. The story at that time was that Baltimore Co was going to use this rig to replace the 1972 ALF Aero Chief at the Westview Station #13. I believe it was also originally numbered as T-13. There were supposedly safety concerns among the career firefighters mostly because the Trenton Pirsch did not have any sort of outriggers or jacks. (many TDA of this era were designed to be "jackknifted" for aerial operations) The Pirsch was then placed into reserve status and used at Westview until the Aero Chief was rebuilt with a 100' ladder and returned to service.

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[quote name='dcfdtech' date='31 December 2010 - 07:52 PM' timestamp='1293841970' post='417709']

I believe this was the 1966 ALF, which when I joined in late 79 was E342. We had an 51,55 and the 66 Alf wagons that I know of. Anybody got pics of the Mack(E442) we had after rehab?? The one I have of it, is behind the Kenworth when it was running as E342. Thanks Scott for putting these old memories on here.

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You are correct the other ALF pumpers assigned to 34 were 700 series. This 1966 was a 900 series that ran as Engine 341 till the 1973 Kenworth/Maxim pumper went in service. The 1970 Seagrave ran as Engine 441 till the 1978 Mack/Pierce went in service. The 1970 Seagrave was bumped down and when the County Placed a 1990 Seagrave in service at Station 44 the 1970 Seagrave went to 34 to be disposed of. In 1992 when the County took over operations of Station 44 the 1978 Mack/Pierce went to Station 34 where it ran as Engine 342. The Kenworth/Maxim was disposed of and when the second HME pumper was received the Mack/Pierce was disposed of.



The 1960 Ford C/ALF pumper ran as Engine 441 till the 1970 Seagrave arrived and as Engine 442 until the 1978 Mack/Pierce arrived. It was then disposed of.



During this time frame the numbers used by the various engine may have been transposed, I do remember the Mack running as Engine 442 for a while, but by the time I was assigned to the 4th Battalion in 1989 it was running as Engine 441. It was repainted red prior to me being assigned to the 4th Battalion, however the Kenworth/Maxim remained lime green for its entire career at 34.

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[quote name='Rescue131' date='31 December 2010 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1293844821' post='417714']

I was a member at Woodlawn VFD when this Pirsch was bought from Trenton. The story at that time was that Baltimore Co was going to use this rig to replace the 1972 ALF Aero Chief at the Westview Station #13. I believe it was also originally numbered as T-13. There were supposedly safety concerns among the career firefighters mostly because the Trenton Pirsch did not have any sort of outriggers or jacks. (many TDA of this era were designed to be "jackknifted" for aerial operations) The Pirsch was then placed into reserve statyus and used at Westview until the Aero Chief was rebuilt with a 100' ladder and returned to service.

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We are both kinda right. Spoke with Wayne Thayer said they were given originally RT 64 old Truck 5 when the aero-chief went out for rehab. That truck (rt 64) was sent out for repaint 13 ran the "pride of trenton" till it was back. RT 64 was lettered 13 Truck 85 never was.

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[quote name='gravenut74' date='31 December 2010 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1293852802' post='417739']

We are both kinda right. Spoke with Wayne Thayer said they were given originally RT 64 old Truck 5 when the aero-chief went out for rehab. That truck (rt 64) was sent out for repaint 13 ran the "pride of trenton" till it was back. RT 64 was lettered 13 Truck 85 never was.

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Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a long while...lol....Wayne was my instructor for U of M Basic Firefighting back in the stone ages...lol...When I was a trainee member at Woodlawn, Wayne kinda took all the rookies under his wing.



I also remember Westview's first truck, the 1949 Seagrave midship. That went on to be the first Truck 17 before ending up as RT-75. Ahhh...the good old days...lol

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Thanks Pete. The Ford was there for about 6 months after I joined 34. And it was running as 441, The Mack was 442 and the Seagrave was a reserve unit for both stations. And after the Ford was sold the Seagrave became 441. The Mack was at 34 as 342 and yes the WAR WAGON stayed lime green.

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[quote name='Rescue131' date='31 December 2010 - 11:12 PM' timestamp='1293853968' post='417740']

Wow, there's a name I haven't heard in a long while...lol....Wayne was my instructor for U of M Basic Firefighting back in the stone ages...lol...When I was a trainee member at Woodlawn, Wayne kinda took all the rookies under his wing.



I also remember Westview's first truck, the 1949 Seagrave midship. That went on to be the first Truck 17 before ending up as RT-75. Ahhh...the good old days...lol



Wayne is a great guy. I worked with his son Paul at 13 for a long time. They are all great people. That old Seagrave truck was well used throught the county. Those were the days your right



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