Philadelphia, PA

[LeadOff]

The Philly TDA's were the last thing they built in Ephrata.

[Juice]

As it stands, the Philly tillers were the last thing they built PERIOD!

[Guest]

such a shame, la city is getting ready to go out to bid on quite a few new tillers. we all know la love them alf /lti  rigs.

[marco17]

such a shame, la city is getting ready to go out to bid on quite a few new tillers. we all know la love them alf /lti  rigs.

 

LA City only liked the LTI ladders.  They were never very high on the ALF's themselves.  It will be interesting if they follow up their KME engine purchases with some TDAs too.  They ran Seagraves ladders through the 80's, wonder if Seagrave may try to work their way back in.

[Guest]

out here on the west coast Seagrave is pricing themselves out of the market to where they are the high bid, kinda like Pierce was a few years ago but have now come down in price to where a lot of cities are going to Pierce without a bidding process. as for KME, la city has looked at la county's and they don't like them, and a few other departments that have KME's are having problems. we will have to wait and see who returns bids when the city get's around to sending them out

[cml0774]

The Philly Alfs are already having problems they are very loud and are leaking fluids; the guys want there old trucks back

[richie101]

The Philly Alfs are already having problems they are very loud and are leaking fluids; the guys want there old trucks back

[marco17]

out here on the west coast seagrave is pricing themselves out of the market to where they are the high bid, kinda like pierce was a few years ago but have now come down in price to where a lot of cities are going to pierce without a bidding process. as for kme, la city has looked at la county's and they don't like them, and a few other departments that have kme's are having problems. we will have to wait and see who returns bids when the city get's around to sending them out

 

I know that LA City does not like the County TDA quint concept, but wonder if they'd be more open to just the straight trucks.  Seagrave has lost parts of some major contracts lately, and after their past relationship with LAFD, you'd wonder if they'd make a deal.  They'll need to buy something and I don't see them buying something like a Smeal or Spartan.  Sorry don't mean to hijack away from the Philly chatter.

[Reliance]

What is wrong with Spartan or Smeal.

[marco17]

What is wrong with Spartan or Smeal.

Nothing specifically, but generally LA City buys from  what some would consider a higher tier apparatus builder.  Or in the case of their recent TDA's.  They specifically wanted the LTI ladders, so they purchased ALF.  They are extremely picky about what they buy. That being said, they, like all the major city/county departments are very tight from a budget perspective these days, so you never know.

[hp1530]

 

I know that LA City does not like the County TDA quint concept, but wonder if they'd be more open to just the straight trucks.  Seagrave has lost parts of some major contracts lately, and after their past relationship with LAFD, you'd wonder if they'd make a deal.  They'll need to buy something and I don't see them buying something like a Smeal or Spartan.  Sorry don't mean to hijack away from the Philly chatter.

 

What happened between LAFD and Seagrave?

 

Otherwise, Seagrave seems to be the perennial favorite for the smaller departments in the area.

[marco17]

 

What happened between LAFD and Seagrave?

 

Otherwise, Seagrave seems to be the perennial favorite for the smaller departments in the area.

I think they were outbid, plus over the past years LAFD has specifically wanted LTI ladders, which was why they went with the Simon Duplex TDA's and then ALF.  

[Bmott70]

Ladder 3 

2002 American LaFrance/LTI 100'

 

Ladder Tower 22

2009 KME 100' Aerialcat

Ladder 249 (Spare)

 

Ladder 12

2007 American LaFrance/LTI 100' 

 

1990 Seagrave 100' TDA 

Former Ladder 180, Ladder 16

Serving as Ladder 2

[Bmott70]

Pipeline 34

2003 American LaFrance 1500/500

[Bmott70]

Engine 119 (Reserve)

1996 KME 1500/500

Former Pipeline 19

Serving as Pipeline 50

[Bmott70]

Ladder 18's Accident from last night
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?sectio...id=9450076

[Bmott70]

Medic 42B

2006 Ford/Horton

EX-Medic 44B, EX-Medic 6, EX-Medic 15

 

Engine 125

1995 KME 1500/500

EX-Deluge 59

[Bmott70]

Engine 58

2003 ALF 1500/500

 

Pipeline 28

2007 ALF 1500/500

[Bmott70]

Engine 66

2009 KME 1500/500

EX-Engine 7

 

Engine 904

1991 Seagrave 1500/500

EX-Engine 903, EX-Engine 216, EX-Pipeline 52

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One of five new KME TDA.  First to Ladder 14. Photo courtesy of Philadelphia 2nd alarmer's facebook page.