FLORIDA RIGS

[kammrk]

Nothing on the tankers, I do know they went with the highway cab doors & the two are still @ Rosenbauer.

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[quote name='kammrk' timestamp='1304904773' post='438905']

Nothing on the tankers, I do know they went with the highway cab doors & the two are still @ Rosenbauer.

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Awesome, thanks again!

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Larry, I'll start with the Seagrave pumpers that were OTJ when I came on in '89. My first assignment was Engine 3, an '86 Seagrave. Here Goes......

1986 Seagrave J Cab pumpers 1250/500

#7531 E1, E18, E16,DX; #7532 E7, E4, E10, E13,DX; #7533 E3, E15, spare,DX



1988 Seagrave JB Cab pumpers 1250/500

#7524 E5, E12, spare,DX; #7525 E7,DX; #7526 E8, E17,DX; #7527 E11, E14, spare,DX (the shop #s not in sequence as these replaced DX'ed rigs.)



1989 Seagrave JB Cab pumpers 1250/500

#7534 E1, E11, spare,DX; #7535 (50'telesqurt) E9, E20, spare,DX



1991 Pierce Lance pumpers 1250/500 (first enclosed cab pumpers)

#7536 E4, E18, E19, spare,DX; #7537 E5, E16,DX



1992 Pierce Dash D8000 pumpers 1250/500

#7538 E10, spare,DX; #7539 E1, E6, E16,DX; #7540 E3, E9, spare,DX



1994 Pierce Dash D8000 pumpers 1250/500/50'telesqurt

#7541 E3, spare,DX; #7542 E4, spare,DX

[Guest]

1997 saw the arrival of the first Quantums for TFR



1997 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7543 E1, E6, spare; #7544 E8, E17, spare; #7545 E13, E20, spare; #7546 E14, E19, spare,DX; #7547 E15, spare



1999 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7548 E5, spare; #7549 E7, spare; #7550 E11,DX; #7551 E12, spare; #7552 E18, spare



2000 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7555 E9; #7556 E14, E11 (unk. why #s not in sequence ie: #7553 and #7554)



2001 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7557 E1, E19; #7558 E21, E16



2003 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7559 E8, E20



2005 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7560 E3; #7561 E4

Pierce Arrow XT 1500/300/75' RM

#7562 E21, now T21 (will be replaced on "engine" schedule insted of "aerial" scedule)



2006 Pierce Enforcer pumper 1500/500

#7563 E8, E17; #7564 E10; #7565 E13, E21; #7566 E11, E6; #7567 E15, E22



2007 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7568 E1



2008 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7569 E5; #7570 E12



2010 Pierce Quantum pumper 1500/500

#7501 E7; #7502 E8; #7503 E13; #7504 E14; #7505 E15; #7506 E18

[Guest]

The aerial apparatus in numerical sequence. Some of the older rigs were reassigned 4 digit shop numbers in the '80s. Previously they had a 3 digit numbering system.



#7571 1978 Sutphen 1500/300/85+ tower; T1, T14, E17, T14, spare. (this rig is still a spare and is one of the hardest running, most rugged rigs I've ever had the pleasure of operatinng. Sorry to see her go soon.)



#7575 1974 ALF 100' TDA T1, T18, T13, spare,DX



#7576 1988 PemFab/LTI 100' RM T3, T9, T14, T9,DX



#7577 1988 PemFab/LTI 100' RM T31, T4, spare,DX



#7578 1988 PemFab/LTI 100' RM T13, spare,DX



#7579 1983 Sutphen 1500/0/100+ tower T1,DX



#7580 1995 E-0ne 95' RM tower T1,spare



#7581 2000 Pierce Dash 105'RM T14



#7582 2003 Pierce Dash 2000/0/100' RM tower T13



#7583 2003 Pierce Dash 2000/0/100' RM tower T9



#7584 2007 Pierce Quantum 100' TDA T1

[daviddnb]

[quote name='Shoop' timestamp='1304800394' post='438584']

srq2009,



So is Hillsborough switching to Pierce?? Pierce took over the Bronto line.

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Probably ordered before bronto swicthing. City of québec have a 134 bronto on order from E\-One. Is due for the end of 2011.



Now E\-One have remove bronto from is website, but industrial bronto are in the line-up again.



On google map, the satellite view was recently updated on the aiport plant and its posible to see 5 bronto kit on the back yard juste beside 3 titan

[srq2009]

[quote name='daviddnb' timestamp='1304947067' post='438929']

Probably ordered before bronto swicthing. City of québec have a 134 bronto on order from E\-One. Is due for the end of 2011.



Now E\-One have remove bronto from is website, but industrial bronto are in the line-up again.



On google map, the satellite view was recently updated on the aiport plant and its posible to see 5 bronto kit on the back yard juste beside 3 titan

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I asked my HC contact - he said he would check. I bet David is right though, since HCFR has had a contract with E\-One for years, they probably ordered their Brontos before the switch. Would be very surprised to see them switch to Pierce.



Still not sure about another Ladder company coming on board...when I know I'll pass along. Looks like the HIT truck finally sold on Brindlee Mountain, so expecting to see a new one shortly.

[srq2009]

[quote name='HIT6' timestamp='1304934655' post='438922']

The aerial apparatus in numerical sequence. Some of the older rigs were reassigned 4 digit shop numbers in the '80s. Previously they had a 3 digit numbering system.



#7571 1978 Sutphen 1500/300/85+ tower; T1, T14, E17, T14, spare. (this rig is still a spare and is one of the hardest running, most rugged rigs I've ever had the pleasure of operatinng. Sorry to see her go soon.)



#7575 1974 ALF 100' TDA T1, T18, T13, spare,DX



#7576 1988 PemFab/LTI 100' RM T3, T9, T14, T9,DX



#7577 1988 PemFab/LTI 100' RM T31, T4, spare,DX



#7578 1988 PemFab/LTI 100' RM T13, spare,DX



#7579 1983 Sutphen 1500/0/100+ tower T1,DX



#7580 1995 E-0ne 95' RM tower T1,spare



#7581 2000 Pierce Dash 105'RM T14



#7582 2003 Pierce Dash 2000/0/100' RM tower T13



#7583 2003 Pierce Dash 2000/0/100' RM tower T9



#7584 2007 Pierce Quantum 100' TDA T1

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Thanks for all the info! Very interesting! I was a wee kid when Station 14 had the '88 Seagrave, '88 Pemfab/LTI, and old Ford ALS rescue car. Those were the days! No Federal Qs in those years...only came with the E\-One tower and Quantums.

[Fire28]

So Tampa only has 5 Trucks 1,9,13,14,21 ?

[srq2009]

[quote name='Tim' timestamp='1304976250' post='438964']

So Tampa only has 5 Trucks 1,9,13,14,21 ?

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Yep...until recently only had 4. Hillsborough County has 4, Temple Terrace has 1, and Plant City has 1. For a total of 11 in a county with a population of 1.3 million!

[Guest]

[quote name='srq2009' timestamp='1304979713' post='438970']

Yep...until recently only had 4. Hillsborough County has 4, Temple Terrace has 1, and Plant City has 1. For a total of 11 in a county with a population of 1.3 million!

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Alex,



Does Hillsborough County have an automatic aid agreement between all the departments?

[srq2009]

[quote name='FIREPIX21' timestamp='1304980442' post='438972']

Alex,



Does Hillsborough County have an automatic aid agreement between all the departments?

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No, they do not. If an incident happens along a border or the location is unclear, then more than one department will respond - some areas of the county have convergence of multiple departments - the University of South Florida area being one. Tampa covers the USF campus proper, but along each side of its rectangular campus are different jurisdictions (Hillsborough County and Temple Terrace). They are constantly criss-crossing each other.



In most cases, the departments work together and try to respond with closer resources if they have them available. From what I've learned, Hillsborough County Fire is the 'ultimate fire protection' for the county, so if one of the cities requests their help, they cannot say no. Accordingly, the county runs specialized calls for Temple Terrace and Plant City, and occasionally runs in the city on highly hazardous situations or technical rescues. I've heard of two instances of that happening, one of each type. Temple Terrace often calls the City of Tampa before calling the County, from what I know...especially for fire incidents along 56th Street and Bullard Pkwy, because Tampa Station 13 is just across the municipal boundary and runs an engine, rescue, truck, and chief.



This is a topic that I find most interesting. It is overall, a minor issue in Hillsborough County. In the whole county, there are only 4 agencies to coordinate. On the other hand, Pinellas County has developed over time with a slew of hodge-podge departments, both career and volunteer, and so now has some 20 fire/rescue agencies (all career, municipal and non) in a county of a million or so. They solved this issue long ago by uniting the county under one dispatch and numbering system (from #1 to #70), standardizing unit types, and hiring Sunstar Paramedic services to be the ultimate EMS provider in the county. Many of the local departments have their own nuances and ALS/BLS statuses are mixed on different department trucks, but the system seems to work fairly well. I have noticed though, that the resources sent to routine incidents are greater than in Hillsborough County. A standard traffic crash (with reported injuries) gets two ALS fire/rescue response units (two of any engine, rescue, truck, squad, depending on what part of the county), and a sunstar ALS ambulance. In Hillsborough County, that is usually cut to an ALS engine or ladder and a BLS ambulance, or an ALS engine or ladder and an ALS rescue. In Tampa, they often send only an ALS engine to check on traffic accidents, with the potential to request a BLS ambulance or ALS rescue.



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[srq2009]

If anyone is curious - you can view active/dispatched incidents for both the City of Tampa and Pinellas County online.



City of Tampa Calls for Service - http://www.tampagov.net/appl_fire_calls_...lsList.asp



Pinellas County 911 - http://www.pinellascounty.org/911/actcallspub.htm



You can also listen to various live dispatch feeds online on Radio Reference.

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[quote name='srq2009' timestamp='1304987644' post='438978']

No, they do not. If an incident happens along a border or the location is unclear, then more than one department will respond - some areas of the county have convergence of multiple departments - the University of South Florida area being one. Tampa covers the USF campus proper, but along each side of its rectangular campus are different jurisdictions (Hillsborough County and Temple Terrace). They are constantly criss-crossing each other.



In most cases, the departments work together and try to respond with closer resources if they have them available. From what I've learned, Hillsborough County Fire is the 'ultimate fire protection' for the county, so if one of the cities requests their help, they cannot say no. Accordingly, the county runs specialized calls for Temple Terrace and Plant City, and occasionally runs in the city on highly hazardous situations or technical rescues. I've heard of two instances of that happening, one of each type. Temple Terrace often calls the City of Tampa before calling the County, from what I know...especially for fire incidents along 56th Street and Bullard Pkwy, because Tampa Station 13 is just across the municipal boundary and runs an engine, rescue, truck, and chief.



This is a topic that I find most interesting. It is overall, a minor issue in Hillsborough County. In the whole county, there are only 4 agencies to coordinate. On the other hand, Pinellas County has developed over time with a slew of hodge-podge departments, both career and volunteer, and so now has some 20 fire/rescue agencies (all career, municipal and non) in a county of a million or so. They solved this issue long ago by uniting the county under one dispatch and numbering system (from #1 to #70), standardizing unit types, and hiring Sunstar Paramedic services to be the ultimate EMS provider in the county. Many of the local departments have their own nuances and ALS/BLS statuses are mixed on different department trucks, but the system seems to work fairly well. I have noticed though, that the resources sent to routine incidents are greater than in Hillsborough County. A standard traffic crash (with reported injuries) gets two ALS fire/rescue response units (two of any engine, rescue, truck, squad, depending on what part of the county), and a sunstar ALS ambulance. In Hillsborough County, that is usually cut to an ALS engine or ladder and a BLS ambulance, or an ALS engine or ladder and an ALS rescue. In Tampa, they often send only an ALS engine to check on traffic accidents, with the potential to request a BLS ambulance or ALS rescue.



I've gone on too long - hope I answered your question <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

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Alex,



I can't thank you enough for the complete break down, it definitely answered all my questions.



Thanks again.

[Ladder 68]

Great, great, great info. Thank you for taking the time to not only record it all over the years, but share it here.



Thanks a bunch Joe.

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[quote name='HIT6' timestamp='1304701532' post='438437']

Dan, Engine 16 is quartered at the old Kenneth City fire station at 46th Av. N./58th St. Pinellas Park won the contract to provide service for the City of Kenneth City about 2 years ago. Kenneth city used to have their own volunteer department up until about '88 or '89, and it was Pinellas County Station 21. When the volunteers were disbanded, unk reason, Lealman took over contract service for the small city, but did not use the station, they responded from their stations 18, now at 54 Av N./40 St. and 19, 46 Av. N./67 St. When Lealman lost the KC contract, Pinellas Park disbanded Engine 33 and organized Engine 16, originally a BLS engine, but now an ALS engine. Now here is where it gets complicated, the number 21, originally KC, went to PP stand alone rescue station at 118 Av. N./31 St. as R21. When the number 37 came available from Largo, PP changed R21 to R37. Then......Lealman, who won the Tierra Verde contract from St. Petersburg, changed the TV station from #2 to #21 with Engine 21. The St. Petersburg/Clearwater Airport ARFF station was #16, but now is ID'ed as #00 in the County CAD. So.....PP, when they occupied the old KC station after renovation took the number 16. Confused? Lealman now has Stations 18, 19 and 21. Pinellas Park now has Stations 16, 33, 34, 35, 36 and 37.

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thanks joe....i have been somewhat following that since i left florida in 2005....and did hear something about PP going to KC....so lealman still has 18/19....is the quint @ 19? I love the pinellas county system...i think it works pretty good....where is the closest engine now to 33...cuz as i remember 33 had the engine and the truck right? and that was the downtown pp station right?....

[Guest]

anyone have photos of new palm harbor rigs? and i love seeing 45's tda out and about...being from the north it brings a sense of home to the area when i come down to visit

[Guest]

[quote name='lfdtruckie343' timestamp='1305309637' post='439407']

thanks joe....i have been somewhat following that since i left florida in 2005....and did hear something about PP going to KC....so lealman still has 18/19....is the quint @ 19? I love the pinellas county system...i think it works pretty good....where is the closest engine now to 33...cuz as i remember 33 had the engine and the truck right? and that was the downtown pp station right?....

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Dan, Lealman still has #18 and #19 as well as #21 in Tierra Verde under contract. E18 is a Pierce Dash? ALS engine along with DC18 from a new station on 54 Av. N. at 40 St. E19 is a Quantum/50' FireStix along with R19 which is a Ford/? RA, as well as W19 which is a county leased water tanker. E21 is a Quantum/50' FireStix in new Tierra Verde graphics. Pinellas Park operates E16, which is a Pierce Dash, former E33, as an ALS engine from the KC station, soon to be replaced by a Velocity in the new RED livery. Station 33 operates R33, a Frieghtliner M2/? RA in the new RED livery, T33, an E\-One 114' Bronto as an ALS truck co. and S33, a Dash squad which previously ran as S35. Station 34 runs a Pierce Dash as E34, soon to be replaced by a Velocity PUC in the new RED livery and R34, a Frieghtliner/? RA in the new RED livery. Station 35 runs T35, a Quantum 75' RM ALS quint and DC35 in a Ford Excursion. E36 is the Spartan/Luverne pumper which has been repainted RED. R37 is a Freightliner/? RA in the new RED livery as well.

[Guest]

[quote name='HIT6' timestamp='1305316990' post='439433']

Dan, Lealman still has #18 and #19 as well as #21 in Tierra Verde under contract. E18 is a Pierce Dash? ALS engine along with DC18 from a new station on 54 Av. N. at 40 St. E19 is a Quantum/50' FireStix along with R19 which is a Ford/? RA, as well as W19 which is a county leased water tanker. E21 is a Quantum/50' FireStix in new Tierra Verde graphics. Pinellas Park operates E16, which is a Pierce Dash, former E33, as an ALS engine from the KC station, soon to be replaced by a Velocity in the new RED livery. Station 33 operates R33, a Frieghtliner M2/? RA in the new RED livery, T33, an E\-One 114' Bronto as an ALS truck co. and S33, a Dash squad which previously ran as S35. Station 34 runs a Pierce Dash as E34, soon to be replaced by a Velocity PUC in the new RED livery and R34, a Frieghtliner/? RA in the new RED livery. Station 35 runs T35, a Quantum 75' RM ALS quint and DC35 in a Ford Excursion. E36 is the Spartan/Luverne pumper which has been repainted RED. R37 is a Freightliner/? RA in the new RED livery as well.

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thanks joe...i love hearing about how the boys down there are doing...went to hs in pp....good times...

[Frank B]

FL Coral Gables

1947 Mack E 75 S #2336