Anyone know what kind of lightbar that is? Looks like a Whelen Justice but on the other hand, it's too long to be...
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[quote name='Juice' timestamp='1326585856' post='471274']
Anyone know what kind of lightbar that is? Looks like a Whelen Justice but on the other hand, it's too long to be... Trav! [/quote] It looks like its the Code 3 Defender but i'm not positive 
[quote name='Juice' timestamp='1326585856' post='471274']
Anyone know what kind of lightbar that is? Looks like a Whelen Justice but on the other hand, it's too long to be... Trav! [/quote] I believe it's a Tomar 970L Scorpion. Washington D.C. has them on their new Pierce engines.
Randy Dame
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I believe it is a Code3 Defender Lightbar. If you look at the light bar closely there is no plastic around the light bezels as there are with the Tomar 970L light bars.
Washington DC has switched to Code 3 warning lights on the latest round of apparatus; beginning with the new Rescue Squad 2, which had a mix of Whelen and Code 3 warning lights (specifically the Code 3 Defender Lightbars). The other reason I am pretty sure it is Code 3 and not Tomar is that Apparatus Manufacturers are not to excited about mixing and matching lights, in less they are by zone, therefor they can ensure their NFPA lighting requirements compliance. Remember the compliance is ensured by the Lighting Manufacturer not the Apparatus Manufacturer. Here is the link for Code 3 Defender Lightbars... [url="http://www.code3pse.com/products/product_info/Fire/Lightbars/C_DF"]http://www.code3pse..../Lightbars/C_DF[/url] Image courtesy Code 3 Warning Lights Here is the link for Tomar 970L Lightbars... [url="http://www.tomar.com/products/lightbars/scorpion.htm"]http://www.tomar.com...rs/scorpion.htm[/url] Image courtesy Tomar Electronics Inc. Not trying to be a jerk, just my two cents...
[quote name='mjpoetker' timestamp='1326643755' post='471338']
I believe it is a Code3 Defender Lightbar. If you look at the light bar closely there is no plastic around the light bezels as there are with the Tomar 970L light bars. Washington DC has switched to Code 3 warning lights on the latest round of apparatus; beginning with the new Rescue Squad 2, which had a mix of Whelen and Code 3 warning lights (specifically the Code 3 Defender Lightbars). The other reason I am pretty sure it is Code 3 and not Tomar is that Apparatus Manufacturers are not to excited about mixing and matching lights, in less they are by zone, therefor they can ensure their NFPA lighting requirements compliance. Remember the compliance is ensured by the Lighting Manufacturer not the Apparatus Manufacturer. Not trying to be a jerk, just my two cents... [/quote] You are correct. The bar is Code3 Defender as are the new DCFD apparatus. Then it looks like they have the mini Defender lightbars on the back. My department has also installed Defenders on our Quint and one of pumper/rescues. The new Boston trucks look good, thanks for posting!
[quote name='amcare38' timestamp='1326640008' post='471330']
I believe it's a Tomar 970L Scorpion. Washington D.C. has them on their new Pierce engines. [/quote] I stand corrected....my bad!
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What is the front mount turret for on 41's ride? Nice pics by the way, sounds like it was a fun one.
Scott
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Nice pics Ed..... Like that shot of Ladder 14 threading that tree to the roof....
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[quote name='cooltex' timestamp='1327265328' post='472241']
What is the front mount turret for on 41's ride? Nice pics by the way, sounds like it was a fun one. Scott [/quote] If I remember its a foam turret E41 was bought as part of the big dig project. Corrections welcome. 
It IS a foam turret. Engines 2, 3, 4, 5 & 41 are all equipped with a CAFS (Compressed Air Foam System) designed to be used on the tunnels carrying Interstates 90 & 93 through the downtown area.
FF Sean 'Skip' Olson
Boston Fire, Ladder 14 In Memory: FR David A. Middleton E51, LODD, Box 5247, 05/28/07 FR Paul J. Cahill E30 & FR Warren J. Payne L25, LODD, Box 4-281, 08/29/07 FLT Kevin Kelley L26, LODD, 01/09/09 FLT Edward J. Walsh E33 & FR Michael Kennedy L15, LODD, Box 9-1579, 03/26/14. 
In addition to the old Providence pix posted, he has some old Boston ones too, more to follow!.......
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[quote name='Skip Olson BFD L14' timestamp='1327354590' post='472338']
It IS a foam turret. Engines 2, 3, 4, 5 & 41 are all equipped with a CAFS (Compressed Air Foam System) designed to be used on the tunnels carrying Interstates 90 & 93 through the downtown area. [/quote] Actually, it's just a turret......the CAFS can be directed through it, but it can also be used for plain water.
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