Relics

[Andrew2340]

What's the purpose of the "phone booth" on the side of that rig, extra rider space?

[Roto-Ray]

[quote name='photone' post='85697' date='Mar 11 2007, 22:31 ']Hi John.



Yep, the county replaced three of the tankers (6, 7, 13) with International/S&S elliptical tankers...all are, I believe 1250/1800 with foam. Tankers 8 and 10 (86 and 106) weren't replaced.



I'm not sure if new Engine 13's in service yet, but if not it should be with-in a couple of weeks...I can probably find out for sure within the next day or so (And maybe even get a shot of it while I'm at it! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />). I'll see if I can get the story of 'The Return of Ol' 136 while I'm at it.



Rob



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The new E13 (Pierce Enforcer) is in fact in service. The old E13, along with the ex-136 pictured above, have been sold (well, all but donated) to a North Carolina department with the same paint scheme that Chesterfield uses. If memory serves me correctly, it's the Cedar Shoals, NC VFD. Both Macks will be headed south in the very near future.

[Andrew2340]

Never heard of Cedar Shoals FD. There's Cedar Creek, Cedar Grove, Cedar Island, and Cedar Mountain, along with Buck Shoals, High Shoals, and just plain Shoals. My guess might be High Shoals, they do have yellowish-lime rigs at their station. Although most of their rigs are newer, not sure why they'd need an extra rig. Do any of those names sound familiar Taylor?

[smketrfdny]

[quote name='Andrew2340' post='85713' date='Mar 12 2007, 00:48 ']What's the purpose of the "phone booth" on the side of that rig, extra rider space?[/quote]



Yes. Back in the "War Years" Ladders rode with 6 men. Usually a 2nd roofman. Since the Seagrave cab only held 6 men, an extra spot was needed. Hence the "phone booth" configuration. I was actually surprised to see a rig still with it after all these years, since it took up a decent amount of compartment space. And many Depts. that refurbed them usually removed it.



I know it isnt a relic with a sad end, but it is a relic nonetheless, imo.



If I only had $38,000. lolol





Stay safe, Brothers.

[galen911]

I found this unit just outside of Roswell NM. There was absolutely no one around anywhere... except a few sheep and they weren't talking.



I'm not that familiar with airport rigs but from what I've seen I believe this is a Walter. There was evidence of three paint jobs during it's life-time... from drab green to slime to red. The latest lettering on the door reads "Roswell Industrial Air Center".



These are either shots through the fence or hail Mary shots above the fence... the best I could do.



Galen Watterson

Tucson AZ



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[mack505]

[quote name='Galen911' post='85723' date='Mar 12 2007, 00:45 ']I'm not that familiar with airport rigs but from what I've seen I believe this is a Walter. There was evidence of three paint jobs during it's life-time... from drab green to slime to red. The latest lettering on the door reads "Roswell Industrial Air Center".



Galen Watterson

Tucson AZ[/quote]

USAF O-10. I believe those were built by ALF.

[Guest]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='85614' date='Mar 11 2007, 21:03 ']<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/thumbsup.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' /> Thanks for the additional pic, tillerman! I guess that it was taken at Brock's Salvage, in South Cumberland.

Here's another that was near and dear... 1965 FWD/Farrar 250/800, ex-Foxboro,Mass.

Photo at Anne Arundel CO., MD. Training Academy, 1985, by H. Meile.

Supposedly bought by the county for brush/woods fires, but apparently never used, disposition unknown...

From Warren Jenkins collection.[/quote]



Anne Arundel Co had originally bought this with plans to use it at the Millersville landfill with personnel at the landfill trained in it's use. Those plans were scuttled and then the rig set first at the training academy and then at the county vehicle repair garage. This rig may have been "junked" along with several other AA co. rigs in the late 1980's.

[Guest]

[quote name='smketrfdny' post='85722' date='Mar 12 2007, 01:44 ']Yes. Back in the "War Years" Ladders rode with 6 men. Usually a 2nd roofman. Since the Seagrave cab only held 6 men, an extra spot was needed. Hence the "phone booth" configuration. I was actually surprised to see a rig still with it after all these years, since it took up a decent amount of compartment space. And many Depts. that refurbed them usually removed it.



I know it isnt a relic with a sad end, but it is a relic nonetheless, imo.



If I only had $38,000. lolol

Stay safe, Brothers.[/quote]





This ladder is located in my town i live in. They usually have extra crap in the phone booth. Saddly that poor old truck from ladder 129 in nyc has been rode hard and put away wet a few times. We have a new ferria 107' and a rescue pumper.

[Guest]

[quote name='Rescue131' post='85826' date='Mar 12 2007, 12:15 ']Anne Arundel Co had originally bought this with plans to use it at the Millersville landfill with personnel at the landfill trained in it's use. Those plans were scuttled and then the rig set first at the training academy and then at the county vehicle repair garage. This rig may have been "junked" along with several other AA co. rigs in the late 1980's.[/quote]

Thanks R131, I could never get a good answer from anyone why a very used FWD made its way from Mass. to Maryland! I have a lot of memories of this piece rumbling past my grandparents home in Foxboro. This rig fought alot of Massachusetts-style wildfires!

Warren Jenkins

[dcfireman]

[quote name='Andrew2340' post='84921' date='Mar 10 2007, 00:25 ']Thats a shame about those DC rigs. Did any of you ride those rigs during your careers?



And ResQguy, where did any of those ambo's get sold to, do you know?[/quote]

Not only rode and drove them, but - going back to Dr. Stinebaugh's post #524 photo in junkyard, I'll bet lunch I can identify the six chassis: going back to front - '68 Ford F/ Ward, '69 Ford F/ Pirsch, '74 Ford C/ Sutphen, '74 Ford C/ Sutphen, '69 Ford F/ Bruco, and '71-80 Ford C/WLF/Young.

[Guest]

[quote name='deaddreams' post='85844' date='Mar 12 2007, 14:03 ']This ladder is located in my town i live in. They usually have extra crap in the phone booth. Saddly that poor old truck from ladder 129 in nyc has been rode hard and put away wet a few times. We have a new ferria 107' and a rescue pumper.[/quote]



The ladders in the war years Rode 7! The fact that most FDNY ladders were TILLERS and in 1971 the city started to get Rearmounts LEFT one man without a seat. So the extra seat became the Junior man (CAN MAN) riding location. As the mid 70's hit and cut backs came, so did the loss of the 7th man and Trucks then rode crews of 6. The Phone booth lasted from 1971 to about 81-83 sometime.

[smketrfdny]

[quote name='deaddreams' post='85844' date='Mar 12 2007, 14:03 ']This ladder is located in my town i live in. They usually have extra crap in the phone booth. Saddly that poor old truck from ladder 129 in nyc has been rode hard and put away wet a few times. We have a new ferria 107' and a rescue pumper.[/quote]





If it was rode that hard, 38k is a lot to ask, IMO.

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[Marc]

Doug, what dept's are those old Weiss Landscaping rigs from?

[Citywide 231]

The Mack started out as Malden Engine 1. It was sold and converted by Wood Trucking then sold again to Weiss. The Maxim was originally the tiller cab of a Peabody ladder truck. They were replaced by former Nahant Mack CFs which you can see the bodies resting in the woods above. He also has the old Swamscott E23 E\-One, not sure that the deal is. I recently spotted one of the Mack CFs with the sander over in Salem, I think it still says Nahant on it, which would mean its the old E33



   



   

[Citywide 231]

If you notice, the old rigs and the bodies are missing alot of parts. Weiss actually let me take whatever I wanted off the old rigs and the bodies before scrapping them. I made out witha 24' entension ladder, akron deck gun, booster hose, caps, spare lights, emblems, and many other things. He is a very nice guy, it is just too bad that he had to cut those rigs up. The Nahant rigs were very nice when they were sold too.



   

[Bob-Ont]

I recently spotted one of the Mack CFs with the sander over in Salem

What a sad way to destroy classic rigs ... by adding salt to the wound.

[Marc]

Thanks for the info Doug. What a sad end for those rigs! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/machinegun.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

[galen911]

[quote name='Mack505' post='85821' date='Mar 12 2007, 09:46 ']USAF O-10. I believe those were built by ALF.[/quote]





Thank you James. I'll add that info to my notes.



Galen

[Andrew2340]

Oh the humanity! That's so sad to see those rigs get turned into kitbashes! There are small volunteer departments that would give anything to own a rig like any of these posted! I know of a semi-local station that runs a 1969 engine for their first out engine!