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Garden State Oldies


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Almost forgot... Great Stuff Scott!!! What a flash back to the 80's for me... Most of what you just posted were around and Front Line when I started in the FD in the "South End" of Hunterdon. I only saw these rigs at Fire School or parades... Kingwood was mutial aid to my company so seeing their Fords were most common.
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garfield new jersey ran this 70's maxim tillered quint (hugh mcgeehan photo)





   



   
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Wow I never knew the garfield tiller had a pump on it i like the little tear drop light 'son top of front too
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Branchville NJ 1940 Mack E type 45 S #1029 M4639/ M4640

Sussex County NJ



These photos are slightly bleached, and this was the best restoration that I could do.





Scanned from origional 8x10 photo

Mack factory photo,courtsey of the Mack museum in Allentown PA
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Bridgewater NJ 1952 Mack L type 45 A #1042 F5631
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Demarest NJ 1941 Mack E type 45 S #1057 M5831

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Frank,



I have my doubts that the Mack is from Bridgewater, NJ. Although there is a Bridgewater in Somerset County, none of the fire companies are named after the township. The Bridgewater fire companies are:



Finderne

Country Hills

Bradley Gardens

Green Knoll

Martinsville
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<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />-->QUOTE(Frank B @ May 2 2007, 23:59 ) [post="103706"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]<div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Bridgewater NJ 1952 Mack L type 45 A #1042 F5631[/quote]



Bridgewater Twp. as NJMEDIC said is broken down into 4 Fire Districts.

1-Matinsville (43)

2-Bradley Gradens (21)

3-Green Knoll (34)

Country Hills (24)*

North Branch (49)*

4-Finderne (30)



*= Companies cover PARTS of District 3 along with Branchburg Twp as well.



Before the County Numbered units each had their own way of numbering units.

MVFD used "M-#"

BGFD unknown

GKFD used "GK-#"

FFD used the year of the Rig "-10"



The unit you show I think would be BRIDGEWATER, MASS



Authority/background for this info... I was a member of Finderne Fire for 8 years. I have visited each station as some point and have seen most of the history of apparatus on the walls of their meeting rooms and bars. This does not match any here.
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Quote:garfield new jersey ran this 70's maxim tillered quint (hugh mcgeehan photo)



Do you have any other closeups of the rig? This is interesting, I looked in my database and I show that this was indeed a 1977 to Garfield, NJ - but it wasn't assigned a Maxim SN. It looks like it was sold by/through Middleboro Fire Apparatus (which was a small company near Maxim at the time).

There are a couple of other entries similar to this.



I also noticed that there is a light on the front of the cab where the Maxim logo would have been. I don't know if this was original or modified after delivery. It also looks like it has a "Maxim" script under the jumpseat window, but its hard to tell what it says.
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[quote name='Fireman5230' post='103759' date='May 3 2007, 11:34 ']<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />-->QUOTE(Frank B @ May 2 2007, 23:59 ) [post="103706"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]<div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Bridgewater NJ 1952 Mack L type 45 A #1042 F5631



Bridgewater Twp. as NJMEDIC said is broken down into 4 Fire Districts.

1-Matinsville (43)

2-Bradley Gradens (21)

3-Green Knoll (34)

Country Hills (24)*

North Branch (49)*

4-Finderne (30)



*= Companies cover PARTS of District 3 along with Branchburg Twp as well.



Before the County Numbered units each had their own way of numbering units.

MVFD used "M-#"

BGFD unknown

GKFD used "GK-#"

FFD used the year of the Rig "-10"



The unit you show I think would be BRIDGEWATER, MASS



Authority/background for this info... I was a member of Finderne Fire for 8 years. I have visited each station as some point and have seen most of the history of apparatus on the walls of their meeting rooms and bars. This does not match any here.[/quote]

Also could be Bridgwater MD. Mack notes said NJ. Do you have any Ideas about my Finderne Hahn post? Please let me know if any one at the station has any Idea when this Hahn was purchased,or any thing else they may have on it!
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Frank B- Thank you for posting the old Mack rigs from the Garden State. I love those old Mack's. They were extremely dependable and served many departments for many, many years.
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<img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/cool.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='B)' />-->QUOTE(Frank B @ May 3 2007, 20:29 ) [post="103879"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]<div class='quotemain'><!--quotec-->Also could be Bridgwater MD. Mack notes said NJ. Do you have any Ideas about my Finderne Hahn post? Please let me know if any one at the station has any Idea when this Hahn was purchased,or any thing else they may have on it![/quote]



Finderne had 2 Hahn Engines and 1 Hahn Snorkle. The Snorkle (Truck 68) was a 1968 Hahn with 85 foot Pitman boom.



The first engine was Engine 72. This rig was a 1972 Hahn that was there until mid 1998. It was sold through ADESSA Auto Aution in Manville. Unknown location at this time.



Then second was Engine 82 an 1982 Hahn that was destroyed in an explosion in Sept of 1990. It was responding to a Natural Gas leak. As it got to a block away, the gas vapor caused the gasoline engine to stall. As it "bucked" there was a spark and lit the whole thing up! Seams the gas got into the storm drain and travled to where then Engine was told to stand by at a hydrent. 3 members were in the rig when she blew. One was burned bad and flown to a burn center. (He became Chief in 2005) The Officer got out and pulled the burning member out of the rear seats. (He was Chief in 2003) The Driver "jumped" or was blown out of the cab and injured his knee - he stayed on doing limited duties until 1999.



The engine was being looked at to have a Pierce Glider kit installed before the incident. Pierce could not do anything with what was left. The heat twisted the frame of the rig. The gas fed fire burned for a few hours. Pierce sold a Javilin Demo to Finderne to replace the lost engine. in 1998 a new Pierce Engine was bought to replace the 1972 Hahn. The unit has the ONLY BLACK OVER RED paint job. The 1998 engine is Dedicated to ENGINE 82 as a reminder to all the members of what can happen.



Below is ENGINE 98


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I believe that your old Mack went to Hamilton, Harris County, in west Gerogia, about 90 miles southwest of Atlanta. That's a county seat with about 500 people in a county of less than 20,000 people. One of our life members from Butler NJ relocated to a smaller town in that county in 1989 so I frequent the area. The last time I was actually in Hamilton was last year with that engine sitting under an overhang at a former gas station in the center of town. Since my very good friend is active with 3 volunteer stations I asked if he knew anything and told me the same story. The stations that he is with all have received apparatus and equipment from their better off fellow firefighers in New Jersey and New York and are concerned that their governmental officials may try to do the same thing when the time comes that that equipment is deemed surplus as some members up north have expressed a desire to get them back for restoration projects some time in the future.



Sorry to say that I don't have any pics that I can put my hands on right now.



Rich Dean











[quote name='Crossbronxxpress' post='93719' date='Apr 2 2007, 17:05 ']The second Mack engine was a 1940 Mack. Not sure what model it was. This rig was sold to a dept. in Georgia back in the 60's. They still had this rig up until around '97-'98 and it was STILL lettered for Palmyra, NJ, and not in that bad of condition. My father was the Chief of Palmyra at that time and received a phone call from one of the boro council people from Palmyra. They said that the Mayor of the town in Georgia that had the rig had contacted them about getting the 1940 Mack back to Palmyra. Everyone was pretty excited about this and they were in talks with the townspeople in Georgia when it was decided that they would sell the engine back to Palmyra for $1.00 just to make it legal. A few weeks before the transaction was to take place, a problem arose. Seems someone in the town council in Georgia had a problem with them basically giving Palmyra the old rig, and not auctioning it. So they wound up auctioning it off and someone from the town outbid Palmyra by a very small amount. The winner supposedly offered to sell the rig back to Palmyra for some astronomical amount of money. My father was so angry he told the guy to shove it........in so many words. So i have no idea as to what ever happened to that rig. For all i know, it may have been scrapped, which would have been a HUGE TRAVESTY. The rig didn't really need that much work to have her looking like new again.



Anybody else know where this rig is now??? GA Dave???[/quote]
Rich Dean, Butler, New Jersey, USA

Member of Kinney Hose Co. 1, Butler Fire Dept. since 1973, Fire Police Officer since 2000

Dispatcher at Butler Police Communications from March 1975 to July 2009

Secretary of North Jersey Volunteer Firemen's Association since 1980

Member of Tri-Boro First Aid Squad (volunteer ems) since 2000 as a driver



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Rich Dean, Butler, New Jersey, USA

Member of Kinney Hose Co. 1, Butler Fire Dept. since 1973, Fire Police Officer since 2000

Dispatcher at Butler Police Communications from March 1975 to July 2009

Secretary of North Jersey Volunteer Firemen's Association since 1980

Member of Tri-Boro First Aid Squad (volunteer ems) since 2000 as a driver



Member of many Yahoogroups, owner of some such as:

[post="0"]FirematicEvents Yahoogroup[/post]the place to for listing and discussion of any event by a public safety organization.

[post="0"]RailfanEvents Yahoogroup[/post]

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Cedar Knoll NJ North End Fc 1939 Mack E type 45 S 1007-1008 M3
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Cliffwood NJ 1941 Mack E Type 40 S 1028 M5918
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