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Prince George's County MD
TVFD Kentland was PROHIBITED by the Fire Chief from responding outside of their first due. The accident I mentioned was in someone else's due but Kentland was the closest extrication unit and they were prohibited from responding. See the Stater911 blog for the sad Kentland saga

www.Statter911.com
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This is starting to sound an awful lot like some place else. Ed, why don't you shut it down.
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Yep, lets not get this thread going downhill. The pictures were great but the story belongs elsewhere.
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Yea who cares really, we don't have an Ambulance in our station but if we have extra staffing some of the guys will go down and help the EMS house out if need be. It's about providing a service to the community you serve, NO MATTER WHAT IT REQUIRES.
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[quote name='Lime Guy' post='153622' date='Oct 4 2007, 16:46 ']TVFD Kentland was PROHIBITED by the Fire Chief from responding outside of their first due. The accident I mentioned was in someone else's due but Kentland was the closest extrication unit and they were prohibited from responding. See the Stater911 blog for the sad Kentland saga

www.Statter911.com[/quote]



Ah, I understand. Thank you for the clarification.
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T-Bone, WELL PUT!!
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Kentland's issues with the PGFD chief are because of their own bullheadedness. It seems to me that they have a rather "holier than thou" attitude and feel that they are above the rules. That "cowboy" crap that they have been getting away with for years is finally catching up to them.



***NOTE**** This will be my only comment in this thread in regards to Kentland.
Jay Kormann
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Anytime now, Ed...
I'm down with:



IAFF, IFPA, APCO, NAED, ARRL
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If you guys want to continuew this thread take it over to the watch desk... lets not ruin this site.
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I think that is right and I am closing this thread for a bit
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Forestville VFD

1979 Ford/Bruco
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[quote name='Pete Muller' post='128856' date='Jul 12 2007, 23:35 ']Mini Pumper 14 is an ex-Talleyville, Delaware unit it was used by Station 14 and then went to the reserve fleet to act as a replacement Rescue Squad. Light Unit 19 was Water Supply 30 the Cab was from a county public works dump truck, the body is from an ex-Bowie Ward LaFrance. There was only one of these units made by the shop, the other Water Supply was Clinton Station 25 which used the Kenworth/Pierce Pumper. The Rescue Squad was a Seagrave 4dr cab that was replaced, after a collision with a train, with a cincinnati style 4dr cab. It ran as Rescue Squad 2 and then want to the reserve fleet. The C Model Mack (RE7) was purchased to use as a reserve engine it may also have come from Talleyville, Delaware. At the same time a 900 series American LaFrance Pumper (RE5) was purchased from Cambridge, Maryland and also assigned to the reserve fleet and assigned to Chillum, Station 44 in the 4th Battalion.[/quote]













Pete, What ALF are u talking about being assigned to station 44?? The only ALF @ 44 was the ALF that was E342 back in the day, I believe. If ya have a pic of it, I would appreciate it if you would post it. THANKS!!
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Ok Fellas,play nice. Talk about the rigs only please.
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[quote name='firetruckenthusy' post='98359' date='Apr 15 2007, 22:44 ']College Park, MD 1971 Pirsch, 1951 Mack and a group shot taken in 1971 Credit to photographer(s)[/quote]

Sorry to pick nits, but C-12 in that picture is a 1973 Plymouth Fury.
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[quote name='fd141' post='154559' date='Oct 8 2007, 16:58 ']Pete, What ALF are u talking about being assigned to station 44?? The only ALF @ 44 was the ALF that was E342 back in the day, I believe. If ya have a pic of it, I would appreciate it if you would post it. THANKS!![/quote]



The ALF that was assigned to Station 44 was a county owned reserve pumper. It was purchased used from Cambridge, Maryland and went directly to the reserve fleet. It was on the county roster as Reserve Engine 5. When I was a Battalion Chief in the 4th Battalion each battalion had one assigned reserve pumper. They were maintained by one station and could be used by any station that needed them. If you have older rosters of PG County apparatus you would only see apparatus owned or purchased for the individual departments. Station 44 had a 1960 Ford C/American LaFrance 750 gpm/300 gwt pumper that ran until they purchased the 1978 Mack MB/Pierce Pumper. If you can get a copy of the PG County history book "Triumph & Tradition" on page 174 it shows station 44 with the reserve engine. Also a listing of the county reserve engines at the time is included in the back of the book.
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[quote name='mdmodeler' post='101224' date='Apr 24 2007, 20:53 '][Image: attachment.php?thumbnail=15725]

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1964 Ford Young Pumper

This unit started as Engine 321

It was moved to 47 when 47 opened around 1971 or 72 and then became Engine 472

Young Factory Photo[/quote]



These are 2 Different Rigs.
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[quote name='Pete Muller' post='154743' date='Oct 9 2007, 12:26 ']The ALF that was assigned to Station 44 was a county owned reserve pumper. It was purchased used from Cambridge, Maryland and went directly to the reserve fleet. It was on the county roster as Reserve Engine 5. When I was a Battalion Chief in the 4th Battalion each battalion had one assigned reserve pumper. They were maintained by one station and could be used by any station that needed them. If you have older rosters of PG County apparatus you would only see apparatus owned or purchased for the individual departments. Station 44 had a 1960 Ford C/American LaFrance 750 gpm/300 gwt pumper that ran until they purchased the 1978 Mack MB/Pierce Pumper. If you can get a copy of the PG County history book "Triumph & Tradition" on page 174 it shows station 44 with the reserve engine. Also a listing of the county reserve engines at the time is included in the back of the book.[/quote]













Pete,

I have that book. Are you talking about Chillum's Ford/ALF?? I dont remember it being a reserve, maybe after The Mack went in service. I dont have my book with me at this time, could you post a pic of it?? I do have a pic of the Ford/ALF that Chillum had, and it had a Chillum-Adelphi seal on it. I'm not trying to start anything, I just dont remember it. I thought I knew all about 34/44!! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />
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any company 35 shots?
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[quote name='fd141' post='155225' date='Oct 11 2007, 23:32 ']Pete,

I have that book. Are you talking about Chillum's Ford/ALF?? I dont remember it being a reserve, maybe after The Mack went in service. I dont have my book with me at this time, could you post a pic of it?? I do have a pic of the Ford/ALF that Chillum had, and it had a Chillum-Adelphi seal on it. I'm not trying to start anything, I just dont remember it. I thought I knew all about 34/44!! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Rolleyes' />[/quote]



I do not have a picture of RE-5. The unit was a 1968 900 series American LaFrance pumper. The 1960 Ford C/American LaFrance was purchased by the Chillum-Adelphi Volunteer Fire Department and assigned directly to Station 44, their second station. It was paired with a 1953 Mack L Pumper that made up the engines for station 44. In 1970 Chillum purchased a new Seagrave 1000 gpm open cab pumper and retired the L model Mack. In 1978 they purchased the Mack MB/Pierce 1000 gpm pumper and retired the Ford C/American LaFrance pumper. When Prince Georges County purchased the station from the Chillum-Adelphi Volunteer Fire Department the 1978 Mack MB/Pierce pumper went to the main station (Company 34) and ran as Engine 342 for a while. The County assigned a 1990 Seagrave pumper to station 44 as their only engine (Engine 441). This engine has been replaced by a 2001 Seagrave pumper and now runs as Paramedic Engine 44 soon to be Paramedic Engine 844. The 1990 Seagrave pumper became the reserve engine. Station 44 is no longer part of the Chillum-Adelphi Volunteer Fire Department there new title is Prince Georges County Fire Department Chillum Station. I hope this clears up the information.
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[quote name='Pete Muller' post='155439' date='Oct 12 2007, 20:59 ']I do not have a picture of RE-5. The unit was a 1968 900 series American LaFrance pumper. The 1960 Ford C/American LaFrance was purchased by the Chillum-Adelphi Volunteer Fire Department and assigned directly to Station 44, their second station. It was paired with a 1953 Mack L Pumper that made up the engines for station 44. In 1970 Chillum purchased a new Seagrave 1000 gpm open cab pumper and retired the L model Mack. In 1978 they purchased the Mack MB/Pierce 1000 gpm pumper and retired the Ford C/American LaFrance pumper. When Prince Georges County purchased the station from the Chillum-Adelphi Volunteer Fire Department the 1978 Mack MB/Pierce pumper went to the main station (Company 34) and ran as Engine 342 for a while. The County assigned a 1990 Seagrave pumper to station 44 as their only engine (Engine 441). This engine has been replaced by a 2001 Seagrave pumper and now runs as Paramedic Engine 44 soon to be Paramedic Engine 844. The 1990 Seagrave pumper became the reserve engine. Station 44 is no longer part of the Chillum-Adelphi Volunteer Fire Department there new title is Prince Georges County Fire Department Chillum Station. I hope this clears up the information.[/quote]







Pete,

I knew all that, I just dont remember RE5!! I do remember both E 441 & 442, The Seagrave & The Mack. The Seagrave was sold to Brian Collins, and the Mack was rehabbed and painted red with a white stripe and then ran as E342 until it was sold to ??. I believe it went somewhere in PA. If you do get a pic of the ALF please post it. THANKS for jogging my memory!!!!
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