Relics

[mnsand]

My Gaithersburg photograph taken in May of 1985 - same as the Campbell County Rural engine?





Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA

[Guest]

[quote name='mnsand' post='162591' date='Nov 11 2007, 17:01 ']Hoping some of our Maryland (and especially Montgomery County) folks can confirm this wrecked engine.



This is sitting in Pennington Gap, Virginia and is marked for the Campbelltown County Rural VFD, which I believe is in LaFollette, TN.



I have very little info on this truck because not much is left.



I believe it is from Gaithersburg, Maryland - their old 1976 Duplex/Pierce 1250/500. I have no information where this engine went when it left Gaithersburg. See next post for Gaithersburg photo.



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]

Wow! What a sad end to this rig! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

This one and Gaithersburg's 72 Young Bison (another I'd like to find) were 2 of my favorite rigs to see when Ilived in G'burg back in the 80's.

Nice find, Mike, but this 1 kinda hurts...

Warren Jenkins

[foghog333]

The information I have on this unit from Gaithersburg was a 1976 Pierce 1250 gpm/500 gwt (no serial number available) on a 1975 Duplex R-300 chassis, Duplex serial number 13731. Hope that this helps out.



Tom Shand

Hamburg, New York

[mnsand]

[quote name='Dr. Stinebaugh' post='162606' date='Nov 11 2007, 17:54 ']Wow! What a sad end to this rig! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />

This one and Gaithersburg's 72 Young Bison (another I'd like to find) were 2 of my favorite rigs to see when Ilived in G'burg back in the 80's.

Nice find, Mike, but this 1 kinda hurts...

Warren Jenkins[/quote]



Agree Warren....hope all were ok after the accident.



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA

[mnsand]

[quote name='foghog333' post='162610' date='Nov 11 2007, 18:27 ']The information I have on this unit from Gaithersburg was a 1976 Pierce 1250 gpm/500 gwt (no serial number available) on a 1975 Duplex R-300 chassis, Duplex serial number 13731. Hope that this helps out.



Tom Shand

Hamburg, New York[/quote]





Thanks Tom for the info.



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA

[Guest]

Sitting off in a field in Tazewell, Virginia is this 1963 Ford C/ALF 65'

About 5-6 years ago, someone sent me some photos of a bunch of Massachusetts fire apparatus in a fire truck graveyard in Tazewell, VA - mostly Maxim and Continental. Anyone know if that place is still around? Looked like he made a "mass purchase" - pun intended...

[marco17]

ex-Los Angeles City FD, 100ft Seagrave Tractor Trailer Aerial. This is one of 10 purchased in 1977. Here she sits prior to auction next weekend. With the removal of all markings, I an unable to tell which station she was stationed while in front line service.



   



   

[firephoto]

Is that LA City TDA at Nationwide? Do you know how much it sold for?



Scott

[Guest]

[quote name='marco17' post='162639' date='Nov 11 2007, 20:01 ']ex-Los Angeles City FD, 100ft Seagrave Tractor Trailer Aerial. This is one of 10 purchased in 1977. Here she sits prior to auction next weekend. With the removal of all markings, I an unable to tell which station she was stationed while in front line service.[/quote]



I've said it before and I'll say it again... it is amazing how quickly the appearance of LAFD (and other S. Cal apparatus) goes south once it is no longer in front-line or reserve status. I am assuming that this Seagrave TDA was recently surplused and is ready to be auctioned off.

[Shoe]

This 1957 Chevy is still the property of it's original owner, the Village of Yorkville Fire Department. It is a very unique piece. Unfortunately is it parked in a city garage across the street from the fire station in Yorkville, Ohio. It's tires are flat and the paint is fading. It is a Chevy panel van with a 500GPM (or possibly 250GPM) front mount pump. It has a 100 gal. booster tank behind the driver seat. If you notice behind the drivers door, there is a hole with hose rollers where the booster line pokes through. There is a Santa Rosa nozzle holding the hose in place in the hole. I believe it was built by Sutphen. As far as I know, there are only two other rigs like this to have been built. One went to Piedmont, Ohio and the other to Wolfhurst, (Blaine) Ohio. The Wolfhurst rig did not have the booster tank and reel. The color schemes on all three rigs are the same. I had heard that this rig had been used as an ambulance at one point, but I don't think that is correct. The interior appears to be set up for equipment rather than for comfort. Any input welcome... Photos by Keith Thomas

[Guest]

I forgot that I had these...in 2006 I found a couple of relics serving out their days on separate pumpkin farms around New Paltz, NY. Up first is an International/Howe marked for Fultonville Fire Department (I'm assuming Fultonville, NY?). It was serving as transport for apple pickers, going up and down a hill all day long. I thought I had written the info down somwhere, but who knows where it is by now. The photos are not great quality, and of course the ID plate came out fuzzy. I wasn't planning on taking pictures and time was of the essence, so maybe next time....

[Guest]

Next was this early '40's (?) Ford/ALF (model FOR-DCC reg. No. F-1487). This was at a separate farm and the markings underneath were difficult to tell (again, I probably wrote some of this down somewhere). This one was stationary, probably for some time. Hopefully someone has some info on this.

[marco17]

[quote name='firephoto' post='162725' date='Nov 12 2007, 03:00 ']Is that LA City TDA at Nationwide? Do you know how much it sold for?



Scott[/quote]



Scott, yes that is correct on the location. I believe it is scheduled to be auctioned off this coming weekend. No idea what it will go for, or what some of the others that were auctioned off recently went for.

[Rheems1]

[quote name='mnsand' post='162591' date='Nov 11 2007, 17:01 ']Hoping some of our Maryland (and especially Montgomery County) folks can confirm this wrecked engine.



This is sitting in Pennington Gap, Virginia and is marked for the Campbelltown County Rural VFD, which I believe is in LaFollette, TN.



I have very little info on this truck because not much is left.



I believe it is from Gaithersburg, Maryland - their old 1976 Duplex/Pierce 1250/500. I have no information where this engine went when it left Gaithersburg. See next post for Gaithersburg photo.



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]





What is that Mack sitting next to this poor piece of wrecked equipment? I think that thing is for sale in the latest Firetec catalog. It looks like a nice piece from what I can see... do you have any more information on it?



Dave

[marco17]

[quote name='rjtoc2' post='162731' date='Nov 12 2007, 09:09 ']I've said it before and I'll say it again... it is amazing how quickly the appearance of LAFD (and other S. Cal apparatus) goes south once it is no longer in front-line or reserve status. I am assuming that this Seagrave TDA was recently surplused and is ready to be auctioned off.[/quote]





A couple of the main issues are quick oxidation of red paint, constant sun, and not being covered. Many of these TDAs were used for training at their academy. My best guess is that this truck has been sitting in the sun for 4 to 5 years, which means the fading of the paint was not immediate. Needless to say, once they go to training, or kept for parts, they are not cared for because they know they are not going to be used for any frontline or reserve status. Very rarely do they go straight from being in a station or covered area, to the auction block.



This just doesn't go for SoCal fire apparatus. Ask anyone who owns a red car in SoCal, and they will tell you it is a constant battle to keep it looking good in the sun out there.

[Shoe]

[quote name='marco17' post='162785' date='Nov 12 2007, 10:50 ']A couple of the main issues are quick oxidation of red paint, constant sun, and not being covered. Many of these TDAs were used for training at their academy. My best guess is that this truck has been sitting in the sun for 4 to 5 years, which means the fading of the paint was not immediate. Needless to say, once they go to training, or kept for parts, they are not cared for because they know they are not going to be used for any frontline or reserve status. Very rarely do they go straight from being in a station or covered area, to the auction block.



This just doesn't go for SoCal fire apparatus. Ask anyone who owns a red car in SoCal, and they will tell you it is a constant battle to keep it looking good in the sun out there.[/quote]



Atlanta has the same situation except it also occurs in our reserve fleet. There have been attempts to house the reserve equipment in open bays in firehouses. Most of the time reserve equipment is in service anymore. Things have improved over the past couple of years as far as the fading issue. People just don't take care of equipment that is not their regular apparatus. (and sometimes - not even their regular apparatus.)

[marco17]

[quote name='Shoe' post='162794' date='Nov 12 2007, 11:05 ']Atlanta has the same situation except it also occurs in our reserve fleet. There have been attempts to house the reserve equipment in open bays in firehouses. Most of the time reserve equipment is in service anymore. Things have improved over the past couple of years as far as the fading issue. People just don't take care of equipment that is not their regular apparatus. (and sometimes - not even their regular apparatus.)[/quote]



Most of the depts at least last that I knew of in SoCal tried the same thing if space allowed. Or at least the station where the piece was housed as a reserve was expected the keep it looking good. But once they are in the training fleet or awaiting disposition, anything goes.

[Guest]

[quote name='mnsand' post='162590' date='Nov 11 2007, 16:58 ']Sitting off in a field in Tazewell, Virginia is this 1963 Ford C/ALF 65' with serial number 21-8820. I am not sure if Tazewell was the original owner or not. Anyone have any information based on the serial number?



Thanks,



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA[/quote]

I believe this Ford/ALF served a few years as Ladder 93 in Old Forge, Pa. in the late 80's was replaced by a FDNY Scope

[Guest]

1487[quote name='Jupiter27Truck' post='162777' date='Nov 12 2007, 10:36 ']Next was this early '40's (?) Ford/ALF (model FOR-DCC reg. No. F-1487). This was at a separate farm and the markings underneath were difficult to tell (again, I probably wrote some of this down somewhere). This one was stationary, probably for some time. Hopefully someone has some info on this.[/quote]



1942 Ford American LaFrance 500/150. F-1487 Delivered to the US Army April 9 1942. One of 40 Class 500 pumpers delivered in that order of fire trucks

[mnsand]

[quote name='Rheems1' post='162784' date='Nov 12 2007, 10:48 ']What is that Mack sitting next to this poor piece of wrecked equipment? I think that thing is for sale in the latest Firetec catalog. It looks like a nice piece from what I can see... do you have any more information on it?



Dave[/quote]





Dave,



Check out the recent postings on the Virginia apparatus thread - I have photos and information on the Mack and others have posted pictures of the Mack prior to going to Pennington Gap.



Mike Sanders

Ashburn, VA