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Keystone State Relics
[quote name='cjsully' post='13184' date='Jul 22 2006, 11:51 ']I have been waiting for you to catch that, Mr. Dean.[/quote]





Between 1900 hours on July 3 and 0700 hours on July 21, I was on vacation. Although I was mostly home, I still did not get a chance to review many of my incoming emails which fluctuate between 50 and 200 daily. Fortunately, we do have a separate online work station in "my" comm center so being back for 3 days including a slow Saturday I now have been able to catch up. I am subscribed to every Firepics.net forum with the email method.



BTW, during my vacation, our police chief who had 36 years in the PD reached an agreeement to retire, going on inactive duty using his vacation and comp time; this now makes me the longest full time employee of our PD as I have 31 years.



Rich Dean
Rich Dean, Butler, New Jersey, USA

Member of Kinney Hose Co. 1, Butler Fire Dept. since 1973, Fire Police Officer since 2000

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Member of Tri-Boro First Aid Squad (volunteer ems) since 2000 as a driver



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[quote name='alpowg' post='12366' date='Jul 20 2006, 22:24 ']Scott- Additional info:



1958 Mack B-85/Harwick purchased new by Wyndmoor Hose-Springfield Twp. (Montgomery Co.),PA. Equipped with Hale 1000 psi high-pressure booster pump and 300 gal tank. Unique body which needs to be viewed up close to appreciate all of its details and the Harwick touch. Its extended bumper has a 6-ton center mounted winch. It was used as a heavy rescue unit. The body area behind the cab which is covered by a canopy roof has bench seats under it. The rear portion of the body is accessible from a center walkway at the back step. It has 14 compartments and is powerd by a Thermodyne 707 gas motor. In 1976 it was sold to Columbia No.1-Columbia (Lancaster Co.),PA. In 1978 it was sold to Mount Carbon (Schuylkill Co.),PA. In 1995 it was owned by a collector in Tremont,PA. It was then sold to a collector in NY state. In 2005 Wyndmoor re-purchased it from an individual in MA. The body is in poor condition having sat outside in more recent years. It is still driveable but is extremely tired. Wyndmoor has intentions to restore it.[/quote]





Al,



Are you sure this went to Columbia #1 Fire Department?? There is nothing in the annals of our history that shows this piece... there was a Mack B model pumper... but it was bought by the Fellwick Fire Association in Oreland, Pa and did not have that really awesome body on it. I have talked with quite a number of the older members and none of them remember this piece.



Dave



*I can't believe I am questioning Al Powell*
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[color="#FF0000"]Here is the 1958 Mack B/Harwick when Wyndmoor, PA had it in service. Mattson Collection[/color] <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Usa' />


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Evans City, PA operated this 1957 Mack B 750 gpm pumper. Mattson Collection <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Usa' />


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[color="#FF0000"]Jefferson, PAran this 500 gpm 1945 Mack L pumper. Mattson Collection[/color] <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Usa' />


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[color="#3333FF"]The Radnor FC of Wayne, PA ran this 1952 Mack L pumper that was equipped with a 750 gpm pump. Mattson Collection[/color] <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Usa' />


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[color="#009900"]Jeannette, PA operated this 1939 Mack pumper. It had a 500 gpm pump. Mattson Collection[/color] <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Usa' />


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    [quote name='wardengine' post='12400' date='Jul 20 2006, 23:52 ']this brockway pumper and the old international alf ladder were made into one.its now a brockway quint ,i'll post pic when i get it scanned.the duce is sitting in a field rotting away[/quote]



as promised here is a pic of the transformed brockway into its new life as a quint
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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[quote name='cjsully' post='12323' date='Jul 20 2006, 21:05 ']Another view of the Big Water



1972 Brockway 361/General Tank

750 Hale/3000

Covington Fire Co.

Daleville, PA

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still in service but recently replaced with a peterbuilt.the brockway still runs tho second out



   
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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this 1951 gmc/approved from lansford, pa. was privatetly purchased recently not far from lansford. the truck is now part of the fleet from the newly formed "black diamond" chapter of spaamfaa "schuylkill historical fire socieity" the unit is fully operational / functional and has been making occasional appearances. this siting is from pennsylvania pump primers muster 2006.



tom, thanks for turning me on to the site.


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[quote name='mickles' post='14120' date='Jul 23 2006, 22:42 ']this 1951 gmc/approved from lansford, pa. was privatetly purchased recently not far from lansford. the truck is now part of the fleet from the newly formed "black diamond" chapter of spaamfaa "schuylkill historical fire socieity" the unit is fully operational / functional and has been making occasional appearances. this siting is from pennsylvania pump primers muster 2006.



tom, thanks for turning me on to the site.[/quote]



no problem,glad to see you didn't go home empty handed last nite.i thought i was going to go home deaf
tom bretz a ffII,retired disabled ff/emt from Kingston PA F D,own 2 wardlafranceengs a 49,a66,member of iaff 840,six cnty fire asso,pa state firemen's assoc, pa pump primers,schuylkill historic fire soc(spaamfaa's newest chapter--black diamond),luzerne cnty fire/rescue,life mem of columbian fire co kingston,former app op at laflin,edwrdsvlle,forty fort all in pa
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[quote name='Rheems1' post='13977' date='Jul 23 2006, 17:15 ']Al,



Are you sure this went to Columbia #1 Fire Department?? There is nothing in the annals of our history that shows this piece... there was a Mack B model pumper... but it was bought by the Fellwick Fire Association in Oreland, Pa and did not have that really awesome body on it. I have talked with quite a number of the older members and none of them remember this piece.



Dave



*I can't believe I am questioning Al Powell*[/quote]



Dave- As you know,the annual convention book published by the Lancaster County Firemen's Association in conjunction with their convention, frequently shows photos of the apparatus for many of the county fire companies. On June 4, 1977 the 57th Annual Convention was hosted by the Keystone Hook & Ladder Co.No.1 of Columbia borough. If you look at that publication under the headung for Columbia Fire Co.No.1, Columbia,PA you will find a photo which features the three pieces of apparatus in service at that time. They are a Ford walk-in van body, 1955 Mack B semi-cab engine and the Mack B-/Harwick in question. This is clear evidence that this Mack was in deed in service with that company. They only had it from sometime in 1976 to sometime in 1978, a relatively short time. It was lettered Columbia No.1 on the cab doors and C.F.D. on the hood. It was reportedly referred to as the river rescue unit at the time.
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Scott,



Info on the Radnor Mack:





1950 Mack L-95, full-cab, 1000/300, full-width compartmented body. It had the first (Beta Tested) Hale Engine Master Pressure Governor mounted along the lower side of the pump panel, which proved unsatisfactory. Hale moved the control to the top of the pump panel where the units were installed from this point on. Replaced in 1970 and sold to the same fire company in TN as the 1954 Mack ladder.
Bruce W. Anderson

Historian

Southeastern PA Region
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Al,



Totally unbelievable!! This is very exciting stuff to say the least, this piece WAS lost in the annals of hisotry. Everyone knew there was a water rescue vehicle before the Dodge Dipolmat/Boston Whaler combination... this piece is the missing link on the water rescue side!





Fritz
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Dave,



1) How dare thee question the god like figure of Al Powell in regards to a apparatus question - just kidding of course !



2) E-mail me - got a question in regards to your Dodge Diplomat answer ?



Scott,



Keep them "old shots" a comin for us old guys - love them !
Bruce W. Anderson

Historian

Southeastern PA Region
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You know, I actually trembled as I wrote that out..... I was sure that Al would call upon the power he has and smite me where I sat. I will send you an e-mail here in just a second... I am at work... no better time than paid time to do fire apparatus photograph posting and such.



Dave
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[color="#3333FF"]Here's another Mack L pumper from Glassport, PA. This beauty is lettered for the Citizens Hose Company # 1. Don't know if this is the same rig as above. Mattson Collection[/color] <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/usa.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='Usa' />


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Engine 161-2 (glassport) - 1952 Mack, 750 GPM Pump
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