[quote name='camdenfirespfn' post='160731' date='Nov 3 2007, 22:39 ']Not sure !! What the #ell !! PhillyFireNews needs a boat !! LOL[/quote]
Lucky for us it doesn't have a ladder on it or it'd wind up in Joel's shop! <img src='http://www.firepics.net/groupboards/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/hysterical.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt='' />
[quote name='Crossbronxxpress' post='160585' date='Nov 3 2007, 11:30 ']Nice shots! Are they going to keep the old "Delaware" as a spare or sell it?[/quote]
The "Samual" is Marine 102 now... Iforget what is older but I am sure the Delaware has seen its days. I dont see the Franklin leaving yet.... Does Jack have any inside info>?????
11-11-2007, 11:17 AM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2007, 11:18 AM by 1958 F.W.D..)
[quote name='KFDI3' post='162457' date='Nov 11 2007, 15:02 ']Do anyone have info on Philly's Fire Boat Deleware?[/quote]
The "Delaware" and twin "Franklin" were delivered in 1949. They are 8000 GPM boats, each equipped with four 671-CID General Motors diesel engines (pre-"Detroit Diesel"). They are single-screw vessels. There are four 2000 GPM pumps. The engines can all be "clutched" in any combination, that is, three may be used as propulsion and one for pumping, or vice-versa, or two and two, etc. Each also has a 1000 gallon foam tank on board. Mesaurements/displacements escape my memory at this time, I'll see if I can dig any of them up. If you happen to have a copy of Paul Ditzel's book "FIREBOAT!" he covers them pretty well.
The "Bernard Samuel" was delivered in 1950. Although it differes slightly in measurements, it is essentially identical to the Delaware and Franklin in technical aspects. The Samuel is currently in reserve status as Marine 101.
The Delaware is currently quartered on the Delaware River at the foot of Washington Avenue, at the USCG Marine Safety Station. The Franklin is stationed on the Schuykill (say "School Kill" for you out of towners) River at the Sunoco Refinery, in quarters built for them by Gulf, (back when it was Gulf). I believe the Samuel may be kept here as well. Both are manned around the clock by a Pilot and an Engineer (PFD Firefighters who have attained Marine Pilot/Engineer status) and if the boat is assigned a run, a land company is dispatched to the berth.
Perhaps PFDBUFF has more to lend, or can provide any changes in what I wrote; it's been a while since I have kept up on PFD since moving 60 miles away.
[quote name='1958 F.W.D.' post='162461' date='Nov 11 2007, 10:18 ']The "Delaware" and twin "Franklin" were delivered in 1949. They are 8000 GPM boats, each equipped with four 671-CID General Motors diesel engines (pre-"Detroit Diesel"). They are single-screw vessels. There are four 2000 GPM pumps. The engines can all be "clutched" in any combination, that is, three may be used as propulsion and one for pumping, or vice-versa, or two and two, etc. Each also has a 1000 gallon foam tank on board. Mesaurements/displacements escape my memory at this time, I'll see if I can dig any of them up. If you happen to have a copy of Paul Ditzel's book "FIREBOAT!" he covers them pretty well.
The "Bernard Samuel" was delivered in 1950. Although it differes slightly in measurements, it is essentially identical to the Delaware and Franklin in technical aspects. The Samuel is currently in reserve status as Marine 101.
The Delaware is currently quartered on the Delaware River at the foot of Washington Avenue, at the USCG Marine Safety Station. The Franklin is stationed on the Schuykill (say "School Kill" for you out of towners) River at the Sunoco Refinery, in quarters built for them by Gulf, (back when it was Gulf). I believe the Samuel may be kept here as well. Both are manned around the clock by a Pilot and an Engineer (PFD Firefighters who have attained Marine Pilot/Engineer status) and if the boat is assigned a run, a land company is dispatched to the berth.
Perhaps PFDBUFF has more to lend, or can provide any changes in what I wrote; it's been a while since I have kept up on PFD since moving 60 miles away.[/quote]
The fireboat Bernard Samuel was built in 1948. The Delaware and the Franklin were built in 1950. All three are 6000 gpm. The Delaware and the Franklin carry foam, while the Samuel did not, and was basically the only difference between the three.
[quote name='ffdrive' post='159997' date='Oct 31 2007, 20:59 ']anyone know why Philly returned the KME tower a few years back? a PM or here would be appreciated.....thanks[/quote]
....And also- What happened to that returned piece ? I remember seeing pix of it lettered for L-22, then delivery was refused on it. Where'd it end up ?
12-17-2007, 01:22 PM (This post was last modified: 12-17-2007, 01:23 PM by Ladder 68.)
It was posted on this site I believe that it was returned due to not meeting specs (which can be as gray as someone wants it to be). That was the basis for cancelling the 2nd one on that order that had not been completed at the time.
Corrections welcome, just trying to remember what I had read.
[ATTACHMENT NOT FOUND][quote name='R1SmokeEater' post='172063' date='Dec 17 2007, 11:39 ']....And also- What happened to that returned piece ? I remember seeing pix of it lettered for L-22, then delivery was refused on it. Where'd it end up ?[/quote]
The KME tower went to Leo Fire Company in RED LION, PA and is operating as TOWER 34.
here are 2 shots of it...Credit to the photographers.