Los Angeles County Fire Dept

[marco17]

How did the County end up with that ambulance-type rig?

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[quote name='marco17' post='188604' date='Feb 12 2008, 11:49 ']How did the County end up with that ambulance-type rig?[/quote]



The county took over a department that had a ambulance. Not sure where that particular ambo came from.

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oops did not see you jfong. lol

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[quote name='azslogan' post='188442' date='Feb 11 2008, 23:05 ']CAFS Engine...[/quote]



The old markings on the trucks were so much more distinctive than the stylized numbers etc. It is a shame they changed. I always looked at their trucks as solid workhorse firetrucks-now with the two tone paint and extra graphics they look pretty much like everybody else. I thought the same way when LA City removed the italicized "city" from their rigs



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[quote name='marco17' post='188604' date='Feb 12 2008, 14:49 ']How did the County end up with that ambulance-type rig?[/quote]

LACountyFire.com has been down a week, but IIRC this rig is ex-Inglewood FD. A 1997 GMC/??, running out of 124's (Stevenson Ranch) in the photo on LACountyfire.



Believe it is usually referred to on-air as "Medic Aid xx". It carries extra items for large incidents, like a "heavy squad" does. It can, and does function as a spare "squad", IDing as "Squad xx" (station number)

and does not transport patients.



Medic Aids were, long ago called "Mobile Aid" units. Perhaps the first was Whittier's early 70's Dodge "Type 1" ex-ambulance, which was featured on several early episodes of "Emergency!". Whittier contracted with LACOFD circa 1969.



Corrections most welcome.





Mike



KMG-941

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EST 85

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Whittier FD was absorbed in July 1975

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Rear View of EST 85

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[quote name='Monrovia1' post='188753' date='Feb 12 2008, 19:38 ']



Rear View of EST 85[/quote]



The body and pump module were made by a company called LaGrange in Utah. KME won the bid to build the replacement EST rigs. The main difference with the new ESP (yes ESP!) is that they will have a extended cab and the body will be made by a local company with KME building the skid unit.

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Engine 85

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[quote name='casey' post='188752' date='Feb 12 2008, 22:38 ']Whittier FD was absorbed in July 1975[/quote]

Thanks, Casey. Shows how much I depend on LACountyFire.com!

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[quote name='JFong' post='188756' date='Feb 12 2008, 22:51 ']The body and pump module were made by a company called LaGrange in Utah. KME won the bid to build the replacement EST rigs. The main difference with the new ESP (yes ESP!) is that they will have a extended cab and the body will be made by a local company with KME building the skid unit.[/quote]



I have been told ESP will stand for Emergency Support PATROL. Since the current EST's are running Patrols when the EST are OOS. Also the differance is an extend cab on the ESP vs the 2 door cab on a Patrol (BOTH are being built by KME).

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To answer a few questions:



1) Engine 24 runs a 3 man engine and Quint 24 runs a 4 man truck.



2) Ambulance Units: Out in the Antelope Valley, MA135 has been activated a lot recently. The standard now is that when Antelope Valley Hospital has more than 40 patients in the ER, they will contact either BC 11 or 17 and the BC will have the MA staffed. The staffing has to be done prior to 2000 as per recall procedures. Once thats done MA135 will more times than not run out of 33's. Talk about a full house! They would have the following units running out of 33's: Engine, Quint, Squad, EST, MA135 and Battalion 11. I will have some more photos posted of MA135 soon.



On a side note, there was one ALS run last week that needed the squad to follow up to the hospital and were told that all ER's in the AV were completely closed. They had to go to Henry Mayo that is over 40 miles away. Squad 33 followed the AMR unit about 30 miles and transfered ALS care to Squad 107 in which they continued to the hospital with the patient. Squad 33 then returned 30+ miles back to their district.

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Engine 74

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[quote name='lafirephotos' post='189133' date='Feb 14 2008, 22:41 ']To answer a few questions:





On a side note, there was one ALS run last week that needed the squad to follow up to the hospital and were told that all ER's in the AV were completely closed. They had to go to Henry Mayo that is over 40 miles away. Squad 33 followed the AMR unit about 30 miles and transfered ALS care to Squad 107 in which they continued to the hospital with the patient. Squad 33 then returned 30+ miles back to their district.[/quote]



A question for you, maybe you know the answer. Why do medic units in California (might happen it other areas, Cal seems to get the most press about this) strictly adhere to the concept of not bring patients to hospitals on divert? Here in NJ divert/closed/bypass is a courtesy. If a patient wants to go to a hospital that is on divert we explain the situation but if they refuse to go anywhere else they go to the hospital of their choice. If all hospitals in the area are on divert then they are basically considered all open. Driving 40 miles to find an open ED is ridiculous.

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[quote name='NJMedic' post='189177' date='Feb 15 2008, 07:06 ']A question for you, maybe you know the answer. Why do medic units in California (might happen it other areas, Cal seems to get the most press about this) strictly adhere to the concept of not bring patients to hospitals on divert? Here in NJ divert/closed/bypass is a courtesy. If a patient wants to go to a hospital that is on divert we explain the situation but if they refuse to go anywhere else they go to the hospital of their choice. If all hospitals in the area are on divert then they are basically considered all open. Driving 40 miles to find an open ED is ridiculous.[/quote]



It varies by county, but many of the items you just mentioned apply to many counties in California as well. Strict adherence to diversion status is not the case in every county. And the concept of "all closed=all open" happens in some areas here as well. Just depends.

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Water Tender 32

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[quote name='Monrovia1' post='189320' date='Feb 15 2008, 18:58 ']



Water Tender 32[/quote]



Was this a former crew carrying vehicle? Sure looks like it.

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Yes, it's a shop built WT on a crew buggy chassis and cab. One of a kind.

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Water Tender 44 both these rigs were built by the department's eastern fire shops staff.